Ilford's Fiber Paper Washing Times

[patrickjames]

I have always mixed perma-wash in with my rapid fix (Ilford) and was wondering if that is something that anyone else does. I know it gets rid of stains when toning for sure. Anyone have any educated opinions on this practice?

 

[thefizz]

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[dancqu]

I have always mixed perma-wash in with my rapid fix (Ilford)...
I know it gets rid of stains when toning for sure. Anyone have
any educated opinions on this practice?

An educated assessment: The Perma-Wash is likely a
little alkaline and neutralizes the fix acidity. Kodak
recommends that sodium metaborate, Kodalk, be
added to their hca before selenium toning. Dan

 

[Kirk Keyes]

An educated assessment: The Perma-Wash is likely a
little alkaline and neutralizes the fix acidity.

More like wild-ass guess? You should read the ingredient label on the bottle. There's a lot more going on than "neutralizes the fix acidity" in it.

 

[bguerreiroset]

I just downloaded "Processing B&W Paper" pdf from the Ilford site and noticed a possible discrepancy. On page 3, top left, it says to wash for 20 minutes.

But then further down the page under the "optimim pernance sequence", it says to wash for 5 minutes.

Both times are mentioned after using their washaid.

Five minutes sounds awfully short. So is 20 minutes the correct time?

What happens to the image and paper when badly washed?!

 

[Sirius Glass]

What happens to the image and paper when badly washed?!

In a word: Stains