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RidingWaves said:
ALoha Simon,
Delta 3200 in 4x5! Handheld Speed Graphic in available light! Totally looking forward to that!

Another vote, that would be exciting!

(Though only if it's economically viable for Ilford to produce. I'd take greater comfort knowing that Ilford is strong and profitable than overextending its offerings.)
 
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Hmm, Delta 3200 in 4x5 could be interesting with the Gowlandflex...
 
It's very nice of Ilford/ Harman to listen to your consumers :smile: I only got to test SFX 120 once, but actually favoured Konica IR 750 at the time. I obviously need a replacement so another vote for SFX 120 here.

A cooltone FB? What took you so long? :smile: With these new print developers, everything is possible now.

Delta 25 120? Interesting...worth a test, get your marketing boys on it.
 
I would be willing to order some Delta 3200 in 8x10 & 5x12 sizes. I like this film for low/indoor/natural (overcast) light.
 
jp80874 said:
Simon,

I have been shooting T Max 400 in 8x10, about 25 sheets a month. I have just added a 7x17 camera. For me T Max 400 in 7x17 is at an unacceptable price. I am not seeking grain, but I do want as little reciprocity as I can. I will have to try 3200 and decide.

Several people have talked about wanting Delta 400 in LF and ULF. Is this even being considered or possible? If both 3200 and Delta 400 become available I will simply try them. Either way you got me. Thanks for all that you and Ilford are doing as well as the APUG convention.


John Powers

The price of T-Max 400, Ilford FP4 and Ilford HP5 in 7x17 is in the same ballpark. A 3200 film would probably be even more expensive than any of these three currently available options.
 
Amund said:
Hmm, Delta 3200 in 4x5 could be interesting with the Gowlandflex...


3200 in the Speed Graphic pushed to 6400 and beyond. I can play Wegee without the flashbulbs!
 
Great to hear SFX is back on the horizon - has been long missed. Would be interested in 120 as well as 35mm.
 
Jim Chinn said:
3200 in the Speed Graphic pushed to 6400 and beyond. I can play Wegee without the flashbulbs!

Jim:

Can anyone possibly be Weegee without the flashbulbs? :tongue:

Matt
 
I would certainly use Delta 25 in 120 format. Although I suspect that when I go large format I will use faster films, and therefore Delta 400 in 8x10 may be useful. The latest issue of Black and White Photography (UK), has in the competition piece, a photo of what appears to be Delta 400 sheet film.
 
Simon R Galley said:
Dear All,
\New products already raised to project level ( but with no final go/no go )
or production schedules are a 25 asa Delta Film ( this would NOT replace PAN F + )


I would be very very interested in a Delta 25 in sheets. It would be great if this would comes to be.

Gary
 
Simon,

Thanks for the reply. As a paper tester for Ilford back in the day, I'm always happy to continue to support your products. Since Ilford seems to have a renewed vigor for B&W and restructuring itself, I'd also be interested to know if you're interested/have plans for further development and production of papers outside "the norm" for Ilford. Personally I think there is some room in the market for newer products, and I'm just wondering if Ilford has considered this.

Thanks
 
Delta 3200 in 4X5 for hand-held available light shooting sounds wonderful.

I have been making do with HP5 rated at 1600, developed in Microphen. I would love to have Delta 3200 loaded in my Graphmatics. Delta 3200 would truly modernize my Linhof Technika.

As Weegee said, "f8 and be there". With Delta 3200 you wouldn't need the flashbulbs that he relied on.

Long-live hand-held 4X5 photography!
 
SFX 200 120

My EUR 0.02: It would be very nice to see SFX 200 come back, I never got a chance to try it first time around. Although I would already be happy with 35 mm, 120 roll film would be great. But then again... I can fully understand if it's not economically viable.
 
I like Ole's idea about Pan F+ in 4x5. I use mostly FP4+, but would jump at the chance to use PanF+ in 4x5 and 8x10. I like EFKE, but I prefer to use PanF+ when there is a choice.

- Randy
 
I'd buy a few bricks of SFX in 120. What would be better is a product more like Konica Infrared 750 in 120.

I don't see why Delta 25 is all that useful. I'd rather see improved Delta 100/400. (Again, if it's Delta 12 IR, I'd buy it in bricks.)

I don't have much use for cooltone paper emulsion. I may be minority on this one. HOWEVER, I have an idea for a very unique enlarging paper product. The idea is simple but nonstandard. It's a "graded" paper but uses multigrade technology to vary the toe shape from short toe to long toe, using MG filter set. I only need grade 2 warmtone. It would be super-cool to be able to get modern portraits and old timey landscapes on a single stock of paper!
 
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Thanks Simon! Return of SFX is great, in 120 format would be even better.
 
"It would be super-cool to be able to get modern portraits and old timey landscapes on a single stock of paper!"

You can do that already with current papers.
 
Alexis Neel said:
"It would be super-cool to be able to get modern portraits and old timey landscapes on a single stock of paper!"

You can do that already with current papers.

No. With current papers the toe shape doesn't change or it changes only with overall contrast. That's not the same.
 
Simon R Galley said:
Dear All,

ULF Film, the good news is that the ULF film sale was a success ( mostly thanks to the dealers who did sterling work for us in getting pre-orders, and you of course who ordered it ) . We will do ULF again probably starting the process later in the summer. NOW A QUESTION : Following on from the Silver conference, and the APUG conference we have been requested to make DELTA 3200 as a ULF sheet film, long exposures are the problem, not grain, so we can see where you are coming from. Our question to you is DO YOU WANT IT, its quite a bit of work to qualify a sheet film base, but if the feedback here is positive we will decide if we can raise it to project level.

I would love to see 3200 as a ULF sheet film, I shoot in mostly overcast low lit scenes and this film would be a great option.

Moke A
 
Just to add my $0.02: I'd definitely try SFX 200 and Delta 25 in 35mm. I can't promise I'd buy lots and lots of either, but I might. ("Lots and lots" for me being about a dozen rolls a year.) I expect to eventually start dabbling in medium format, so I'd probably try (and perhaps regularly use) these in 120 format, as well.
 
Vote for Delta 25 in 120 Size

I'm putting in my vote for Delta 25 in 120 size. Delta 100 is fine for 4x5 and I don't shoot 35mm any more (spoiled by 6x6, 6x7 and 4x5). My hope is that it will be fairly normal contrast, so no special developers needed, ala Kodak Tech Pan. I will be first in line. Can we start placing advanced orders to give Ilford some idea about the demand?
 
3200 in sheets? Put me down for a few hundred sheets in various sizes.
 
Has Ilford looked into the Gigabit Technology for a super fine grain film? Ludwig of Gigabit has the technology, but Agfa's demise has killed future production. I have used Gigabit film in both 35mm and 4x5 and was hoping at one time that it might be made in 120 size. I have done enough testing to have a handle on gigabit film and it is fantastic stuff!!!

I've resolved 156 lp/mm center at F5.6 on the film.
 
Ryuji said:
No. With current papers the toe shape doesn't change or it changes only with overall contrast. That's not the same.

Yes...you can still get what you asked for with current papers. It really doesn't matter if the toe changes or not. If you can produce the print, and the type you posted can be done, what does it matter if the toe changes or not?
 
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