Ilford HP5/ FP4 Motion Picture film

I'm sure nobody is faking anything, just wondering if the roll I have was intended for a similar purpose to the one in the older part of the thread. My can doesn't say how the film is wound, but the guy in the shop said it's emulsion out. They say it's been in their cellar for around 15-18 years, which could well be correct if the obtained it a couple of years after it was made.

They tell me that they've been selling it to photography students (we still have a college doing proper photography) and they are happy with it...for the price I paid it doesn't matter much if it turns out to be a dud but I will keep APUG informed.

the label on the picture you posted does say EO so it is no doubt wound emusion out, some movie users prefer an emusltion out wind.

the DNP is likely meaning Double Negative perforations. what Kodak calls BH1866. although I suspect you may want to look at a sample ot be sure.

The label does say hp5Plus Movie film, and is marked "Ilford Ltd" so it was made before the re-org. the expiry date is 21 years ago so the film is old enough to drink.

OK I spooled off a couple of feet into a cartridge and shot 6 exposures at 400ISO in my Nikon F601M just to test this. Processed in ID-11 for 7 minutes 30 seconds, two inversions every minute. To be honest I wasn't being as careful with the shooting, processing or fixing as I usually am...I was just getting a feel for if this stuff is usable.

It has the slightly rounded sprocket holes as expected, but no issues in camera. Inside the metal can is a thick black plastic bag, containing the film on a 2" core - entirely as expected.
E14507 and "Ilford Safety Film" is on the edge. There is some base fogging but all 6 exposures yielded fair images. I would definitely not use this for a competition (not that I ever enter anyway) but I would think rated at 200ISO or given an extra minute processing it's absolutely fine to use as an every day film.

Agulliver said:

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E14507 and "Ilford Safety Film" is on the edge. There is some base fogging but all 6 exposures yielded fair images.
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the Number is a footage number for movie editing purposes. E indicates the type of film, and 14507 is the "foot" your next roll SHOULD have E14508, E14509 etc. The Ilford motion Picture film I have had in the past also has the "Ilford Safety Film" and the numbers read right from the emulsion side. (which makes a lot of sense in a film editing situation, where you are cutting the negative to match an edited work print, but can be confusing for a still photographer)

Nice Tape machine BTW

Yes that's correct, the numbers and film type read backwards from the usual side for still photography. I'll experiment some more when time allows but the film is usable, and I paid peanuts for it really. I can see why photography students would use it. For me, it's more fun. I get the impression that the shop has plenty left.

If anyone else finds similar film cans, the stuff seems to work.

Agulliver said:

Yes that's correct, the numbers and film type read backwards from the usual side for still photography. I'll experiment some more when time allows but the film is usable, and I paid peanuts for it really. I can see why photography students would use it. For me, it's more fun. I get the impression that the shop has plenty left.

If anyone else finds similar film cans, the stuff seems to work.

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The only caution is if you are using stock dev filter it as cine can have more chips.
If it is EO simplest is to respool onto cine reel easy even in changing bag.