Identify model Rolleiflex

[solidsnake777]

Hi everyone!

I want to identify the model of my Rolleiflex camera.

Rolleiflex DRP 713436 DRGM.

Thanks for attention.



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[AgX]

DRP and DRGM are just indicators that parts of a product are protected on their intellectual property. That the respective institution was a german imperial one, gives a certain hint at the period of installment of protection.

 

[Dan Daniel]

Pre-War Automat. K3A? The lack of a bayonet for filters on the viewing/upper lens, and the gray paint in the center rings of the shutter and aperture dials. Also no sports finder window on the focusing hood.

http://www.rolleiclub.com/cameras/tlr/info/automat.shtml

DRG and DRGM are trademark/patent marks, as noted. Deutsches Reich... By 1949, the mark was changed to DBG and DBGM, Deutsch Bundes. Germany changed its official title after WWII from Reich to Bundes... I'll let a real German speaker explain the difference in the two words.

https://www.acronymfinder.com/Deuts...an:-German-Federal-Utility-Model)-(DBGM).html

 

[AgX]

DRP and DRGM are trademark/patent marks, as noted.

Not trademark, but technical and design patents.

 

[gone]

Try this: https://www.rolleiclub.com/cameras/tlr/info/index.shtml

 

[John Will]

The serial number identifies it as an Automat Model 1 (RF 111A) produced between 1937-39.

 

[solidsnake777]

The serial number identifies it as an Automat Model 1 (RF 111A) produced between 1937-39.

Where did you find out?

 

[John Will]

Where did you find out?

https://camerapedia.fandom.com/wiki/Rolleiflex_Automat_Model_1

 

[solidsnake777]

https://camerapedia.fandom.com/wiki/Rolleiflex_Automat_Model_1

Thank you

 

[JPD]

The first Rolleiflex Automat didn't have the protection cover for the shutter release button, but it was added a couple of months later. In 1939 the viewing lens also got a bayonet. So I would date this particular camera to 1938. The looks like it has been used, but the owner(s) took good care of it.

 

[craigclu]

Some more from Arthur Evan's book:

 

[BobUK]

List of serial Numbers.

Rolleiflex TLR Serial Numbers ~ Rolleiclub

 

[JPD]

Some more from Arthur Evan's book:

His book is good. Of course, Franke & Heidecke didn't call the cameras "type 1, type 2" and so on, especially not when only small changes were made, but it's interesting information for collectors and sometimes for users as all types sometimes can't use the same accessories, for example. For close-ups this camera needs the Proxar sets with one Proxar with bayonet and one push-on. It can also use the earlier sets with two 28,5 mm push-on Proxars.

I almost forgot that I have this camera on my avatar. It's in near mint condition. I also have the 1939 model in mint condition.

 

[BobUK]

I have missed something here.
Could someone please tell me what is the title of the Arthur Evans book?
Thankyou.

 

[craigclu]

I have missed something here.
Could someone please tell me what is the title of the Arthur Evans book?
Thankyou.

Screen shot from Amazon.... Looks like there are multiple sources. ISBN 0-931838-06-1

 

[BobUK]

Many thanks for the information craigclu .

 

[JPD]

For more in depth information there are the "Rollei Report" books 1 and 2 (pre and post war Rolleis TLRs) by the Rollei engineer Claus Prochnow, but they are in German. They also include the accessories. The later books are for the Rollei 35, SLRs and the 2,8GX. Prochnow also wrote the Voigtländer Report books before he died.

 

[c t b]

I second the rollei reports