Ideas for a Diy shutter

Verpeilto_0 · Mar 25, 2020

Hey People,

I build this 11x14ish Ulf Camera. Im Shooting with ra4 paper reversed. I went out yesterday to test it out i quickly realised that i need a good shutter for it. I thought the low sensitivity of the paper would be enough to slow down exposures down to seconds. Appearently It does not and i needed something like 1/10 of a second to take a well exposed image. I tried to manually do that but the paper was totally overexposed. So does anybody have an Idea how to build a good enogh shutter for this 20cm lense?

Verpeilto_0 · Mar 25, 2020

tezzasmall · Mar 25, 2020

You could put a ND filter on it, but looking at the lens, it would have to be quite big, so maybe a sheet of gel filter is available and would be a lot cheaper? I know that polarizer gel filters are relatively cheap if not ND.

Terry S

Dan Fromm · Mar 25, 2020

I have no ideas re DIY shutters, but see https://galerie-photo.com/construire-obturateur-grande-taille.html. Also look in https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?31

For curiosity, what is the lens?

btaylor · Mar 25, 2020

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...ter-for-barrel-lenses-drum-roll-please.13953/

The Jim Galli Shutter. I’m sure you already have the materials to make it!

Mainecoonmaniac · Mar 25, 2020

Have you ever heard of a Guillotine shutter. Very simple technology. The wider the gap, the longer the exposure.

https://www.largeformatphotography.info/guillotine-shutter/guillotine-shutter-speeds.html

Another way is to add an ND filter for longer exposures so you don't have to have a shutter.

Verpeilto_0 · Mar 28, 2020

Thank you very much. I will defenetly look into that post.

For curiosity, what is the lens?[/QUOTE]

36" 914mm f8 Aero Objektiv Glocke und Howell Teleobjektiv für Großformatkamera 8 x 10 11 x 14

You can see it here were I bought it, there was 1left as I last checked in

https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/722...-aero-objektiv-glocke?ref=shop_home_active_16

Verpeilto_0 · Mar 28, 2020

Thank you very much for your reply.
And yes I thought about using a guiltuine shutter, but it would be quite bulky to travel with 4 or more of these plates with holes in them. But when I fail with the other shutters. This will be my backup. And after that I will buy some neutral density.

Dan Fromm · Mar 29, 2020

36" 914mm f8 Aero Objektiv Glocke und Howell Teleobjektiv für Großformatkamera 8 x 10 11 x 14

You can see it here were I bought it, there was 1left as I last checked in

https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/722...-aero-objektiv-glocke?ref=shop_home_active_16

Years ago I was given one of those monstrosities. It was too big and heavy for me to use as a lens but it was an excellent doorstop.

More seriously, my great long lens is a 900/10 Apo-Saphir. I found an industrial (without diaphragm) Compound #5 shutter, had an adapter that holds it in front of the lens made. You might want to look for a Compound #5 or an Ilex #5 to hang in front of your monstrosity.

I usually put lenses in barrel in front of shutters but the Compound's controls would be inaccessible if the lens were in front of it.

Sam_PNW · Apr 18, 2020

I have the same lens (Kodak version). The lens already has a shutter, but it looks to be removed on your copy. There is a large post on the back of the lens you can rotate that to open and close the blades. Perhaps some kind of servo drive to actuate it can be implemented. Also, this lens has an iris, try moving the knurled post on silver ring on the front of the shutter flange. It does not have an aperture scale, but you can measure and use area of the iris opening I guess to approximate. Good luck, a friend and I am building a 16x20 camera around this lens and it's been a challenge, but we're getting there.

Verpeilto_0 · Apr 18, 2020

Sam_PNW said:
I have the same lens (Kodak version). The lens already has a shutter, but it looks to be removed on your copy. There is a large post on the back of the lens you can rotate that to open and close the blades. Perhaps some kind of servo drive to actuate it can be implemented. Also, this lens has an iris, try moving the knurled post on silver ring on the front of the shutter flange. It does not have an aperture scale, but you can measure and use area of the iris opening I guess to approximate. Good luck, a friend and I am building a 16x20 camera around this lens and it's been a challenge, but we're getting there.

Hey thanks for your reply. And i was quite dissapointed, i bought this lense knowing that it should have a shutter inside, but it was removed. no parts left. The apeture is also gone. But i experimented with taking the pictures digitally. I used a 30 inch white board on a tripod to project the image on and then photographed that. its quite stunning, and i dont need to waste ra4 paper and i get way better dynamic range, only problem is resolution. i dont have the best digital camera, so its kinda low quality but the effect it produces is stunning, im hoping to hear from your updates about yours camera.

Sam_PNW · Apr 18, 2020

Strange, on the Etsy listing I can see the shutter blades and iris clearly in the 5th and 6th images there. Can you post a photo of your lens? Here is a photo of mine disassembled -

Verpeilto_0 · Apr 20, 2020

Sam_PNW said:
Strange, on the Etsy listing I can see the shutter blades and iris clearly in the 5th and 6th images there. Can you post a photo of your lens? Here is a photo of mine disassembled -

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Oh what a beauty, this looks so good.
As you may see, i got the beautiful outside, but on the insdie its icecold

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