I wrote to Shanghai film about their 220 availability

Huss · Oct 1, 2020

I wrote to SHANGHAI JIANCHENG TECHNOLOGY PTY LTD asking when GPX 400 220 would be available in the US.
They responded soon, and I could place a bulk film pre-order which would be shipped directly to me.

So... I asked what size a bulk order would be, and how much...

I can't be the only one interested in 220 film! Any user of a Fuji GW690 must be into this!! 16 shots per roll people.

Lachlan Young · Oct 1, 2020

I'm definitely interested in finding out more about the emulsion itself as well - 220 is a useful option to have when using Pentax 67's too.

pentaxuser · Oct 1, 2020

Thanks for taking the trouble to get info direct from Shanghai. So at least it looks like a certainty but with what may be a sting in the tail in terms of bulk orders and what size this is. Had it any reason to believe you were a retailer or some kind of a bulk seller such as we see on the likes of e-bay? What may be a reasonable minimum order quantity for the above categories may not be reasonable for a user.

pentaxuser

MattKing · Oct 1, 2020

Did your enquiry make clear that you were interested in 220 film including the spool, the leader and the trailer?
Because it would be easy to order the film alone (in a very large quantity) from either Ilford or Kodak.

Athiril · Oct 1, 2020

Its available to buy in China by the looks, about $8USD. Expect significant markup if anyone sells in the US (have to cover shipping and have a markup to make it worthwhile).

Donald Qualls · Oct 1, 2020

Well, 220 was always close to twice the price of 120. If this runs twice the cost of GP3 400 in 120, that's just about right.

Huss · Oct 1, 2020

MattKing said:
Did your enquiry make clear that you were interested in 220 film including the spool, the leader and the trailer?
Because it would be easy to order the film alone (in a very large quantity) from either Ilford or Kodak.

Yes. 220 rolls. I did not present myself as a dealer or some such thing. Just asked when it would be available.

I'm interested to see their reply.

Athiril · Oct 1, 2020

If anyone is in Australia I can try to import some on my next order

pentaxuser · Oct 1, 2020

Looks like QED. Shanghai has done the job. It has the monopoly of the 220 market and somehow has managed to do it at a profit. In terms of price it would look as if we can eliminate dumping at below cost to destroy the opposition as there is none and based on what has been stated by Ilford and what people know or have assumed about the viability of 220 production there is never likely to be any opposition that Shanghai will have to face

A plan has come together for the S (not A) Team

pentaxuser

miha · Oct 1, 2020

Yes, great job Shanghai! Thanks Huss.

BrianShaw · Oct 2, 2020

Wonder why none of the US importers/retailers of Shanghai film didn’t get on that bandwagon already. Might be worth asking them too.

peoplemerge · Oct 2, 2020

I'll buy a handful of rolls if someone in CONUS wants to do a group order.

Agulliver · Oct 2, 2020

I'm definitely up for a small number if the 220 finds its way to the UK or Europe.

Donald Qualls · Oct 2, 2020

If it's cost competitive (i.e. little or no higher than two rolls of 120), I'd consider it. I have one 220 back for my RB67; 20 frames on a roll isn't a bad thing, and of course Paterson developing reels will accept 220.

horacekenneth · Oct 2, 2020

also interested

Kino · Oct 2, 2020

I would be interested in a few rolls.

Huss · Oct 2, 2020

They have not yet responded to my follow up questions - size of bulk order, how much $$$ etc.

ic-racer · Oct 2, 2020

Want, Want, Want. Maybe it is some 'new camera syndrome' or the 'convenience' of motor drive, but my new Rollei just seems to go through the 120 rolls fast.

Trask · Oct 2, 2020

I too would be interested in a few rolls — for an A24 Hassy back, Bronica, etc.

howardpan · Oct 4, 2020

Huss said:
They have not yet responded to my follow up questions - size of bulk order, how much $$$ etc.

Mainland China will be on vacation until October 8th. You may not hear back before then.

Huss · Oct 4, 2020

howardpan said:
Mainland China will be on vacation until October 8th. You may not hear back before then.

Good to know, thanks!

Huss · Oct 8, 2020

I just received a reply. I would have to order minimum 100 pieces. I would be charged $810 including shipping, so "my" cost would be $8.10/roll of 220.
If anyone wanted to buy any from me, shipping would have to be added to that, etc.

Soo... would this be worth it? I'd like it at $8.10/roll shipped. But I don't need $810 worth!

The cheapest 120 400 ISO film in the US is about $4.80 before tax/shipping. But it's 120 film.

Deleted member 88956 · Oct 8, 2020

BrianShaw said:
Wonder why none of the US importers/retailers of Shanghai film didn’t get on that bandwagon already. Might be worth asking them too.

These 220 rolls may have a Huawei chip installed.

Deleted member 88956 · Oct 8, 2020

Huss said:
I just received a reply. I would have to order minimum 100 pieces. I would be charged $810 including shipping, so "my" cost would be $8.10/roll of 220.
If anyone wanted to buy any from me, shipping would have to be added to that, etc.

Soo... would this be worth it? I'd like it at $8.10/roll shipped. But I don't need $810 worth!

The cheapest 120 400 ISO film in the US is about $4.80 before tax/shipping. But it's 120 film.

Wouldn't you have to pay customs on top?

Deleted member 88956 · Oct 8, 2020

I wonder if this is just a 120 film spooled as 220. According to Ilford 220 film is a different beast altogether due to lack of backing paper and need to use different base material (or some special treatment) to boost its durability.

I wrote to Shanghai film about their 220 availability

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