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I supose this is par for the course with COVID-19 -Henrys stores closed

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Probably typical of the entire industry, But Henrys has joined the list (Including B&H in NYC) who have closed their retail operations and will run strictly as mail order for at least the rest of the month.

hope everyone has ordered film and stuff ahead of time.
 
In my state practically all non-food walk-in retail shops had been closed due to government order. A curfew is being discussed.
So there is more to bother about than just film...
 
No government orders in the UK to close any businesses yet, but people are being told to avoid "non essential" social interaction including visits to restaurants, bars etc. Overseas friends have asked me if curfews will be introduced...apparently such things aren't that uncommon in many countries....and I have to say I have no idea. There hasn't been one in England within living memory...if at all. There wasn't even one during the "blackout" in World War II. But we will, at some point, need people to stay in unless doing food or medicine shopping. And how do you actually enforce that? Probably by having police officers or soldiers asking people for papers....but again, that is anathema to the British way of life....we're too individualistic - and I do count myself in that. The idea that the authorities can ask what you are doing, ask to see identification, is just alien to the vast majority of people here. I hope my beloved camera shop survives, and I may go out and shoot some film if the weather is nice on Monday. Because that's in no way discouraged at present.
 
Overseas friends have asked me if curfews will be introduced...apparently such things aren't that uncommon in many countries....and I have to say I have no idea. There hasn't been one in England within living memory...if at all.

well they have closed the border between Canada and the US to all "Non essential Travel", that has not happened since Canada gained it's independence from Britain in 1867.
 
In Los Angeles the schools are closed, universities are only on line, restaurants only have carry out [take away], and many business are having the employees telecommuting. Busses and and subways will be kept running, mail, UPS and FedEx are going to stay operating but signatures are not taken, instead the receiver's names are dictated. The street and freeways are fairly empty and free flowing. People who work in restaurants and some other employees have been laid off. This will be a hard time for some people and their financial recovery will be slow and painful.
 
Looks like it's closed in our mall. But that doesn't bother me as they have bugger all in there, in regards to film, anyways. Kerrisdale Cameras is open and they've got lots of analogue products.
 
https://www.henrys.com/special-message

Probably typical of the entire industry, But Henrys has joined the list (Including B&H in NYC) who have closed their retail operations and will run strictly as mail order for at least the rest of the month.

hope everyone has ordered film and stuff ahead of time.

Argentix will send stuff and film via web site. Here is no stuff anymore at Henry, Downtown and Burlington camera sells it.
 
No reason to close up shop here, although revenue has cratered to almost zero. A lot of uncertainty has people gripping their wallets tight, which is understandable. I've been working in IT during all of this, it's been pretty intense, non-stop prepping core business to work remotely and teachers to teach remotely. It's all hands on deck, never seen anything like it, we're pretty exhausted. I can't even imagine what some medical professionals are going through.
 
I work as senior science tech in a school in London. But I also am part time care giver for someone with a whole range of medical conditions which would mean they would likely not survive this virus. This person is 35, not elderly....is married and most of the time leads a full life....is active in their community, organises conferences and does voluntary work. Not that I believe we should be leaving old people or those who have disabilities which mean they can't work to die either - my mother is 75 and on steroids while her partner is 80 and has a lung condition which would likely see him die too if he caught the COVID-19 illness. I'd rather not lose them until their time. Thankfully as of Wednesday my school's principal agreed that me travelling into London on trains and buses was too much of a risk to the people I help look after. Additionally 10 of the 14 staff in my department were either off sick, self isolating (one visited Italy) or given leave due to underlying conditions I've been doing limited working from home since Wednesday and definitely feel safer outside London where things are ahead of the rest of the UK. I do know someone who probably has the illness, he's got the high fever and possibly pneumonia - says it feels like his lungs are full. And the nice nurse who talked with him over the phone says they can't admit him to hospital until it's so bad he can't speak. He's in his 30s too and usually as strong as the proverbial ox. After today's school day the schools in the UK close......except they're remaining open to the offspring of essential workers. It is still unclear if my "work from home when we send you documents to work on" will be ongoing or if they'll ask me back. I fully accept that a possible 3-4 months (or more) off on full pay is a big ask. I'm glad they're currently enabling me to still care for the people I care about.

This is not "stupid" or "annoying". This is genuinely killing people. Spouses, parents, children, nieces, nephews.

As for physical shops, some areas of the world are on "lockdown" with only essential shops open. I am given to understand this means supermarkets, bakers, butchers, pet stores (for pet food), DIY stores for essentials, pharmacies. Places like camera shops would be closed. However business may continue online if that's seen as viable. A one or two person operation may be able to continue.

Here in the UK we're not on such a lockdown, though we're encouraged to work from home and avoid close social contact....so we're encouraged not to go to restaurants and pubs but they're not closed. I was last "out and about" on Wednesday evening and there were certainly far fewer people in the restaurants in town but there were a few. The one restaurant I looked into had hand sanitiser stations on the walls and were carefully sanitising each table after each use. But....that may not be sufficient in coming weeks. We pretty much know that a more severe "lockdown" is coming here. Though thankfully Londoners are being fairly sensible - trips on London Transport are down over 60%, even 80% in some areas. Our graph isn't following that of Italy. But we'll still need to be careful. It is said there are 12,000 ventilators in the country. We need to be sure that at any time there are no more than 12,000 people needing them.

Annoying? No. Challenging? Yes. It's going to be detrimental to careers, livelihoods, mental health and to the world's economies. Probably like nothing since world war II. Hopefully it won't last as long. It almost certainly won't be as damaging as that war if we actually follow the advice given. It's going to be challenging to change our ways too. But it's already having unpredicted effects on the environment...dolphins back in the canals of Venice which are visibly running cleaner too....atmospheric measurements already showing that the decrease in travel has caused improvements.

Meanwhile, while the UK is not on lockdown, I plan on taking a walk soon to local parks to take photos of the wildlife and landscape - as such walks are specifically recommended. In the UK the National Trust has opened up it's parks and gardens for free - though houses and cafes are shut. Such outdoor spaces - while we are not in de facto lockdwon - are a great opportunity to get outdoors and to take photos. Then we can continue to support the film manufacturers, darkroom supply manufacturers, labs and so on. Even if we have to post our films to labs we previously visited on foot.
 
I work as senior science tech in a school in London. But I also am part time care giver for someone with a whole range of medical conditions which would mean they would likely not survive this virus. This person is 35, not elderly....is married and most of the time leads a full life....is active in their community, organises conferences and does voluntary work. Not that I believe we should be leaving old people or those who have disabilities which mean they can't work to die either - my mother is 75 and on steroids while her partner is 80 and has a lung condition which would likely see him die too if he caught the COVID-19 illness. I'd rather not lose them until their time. Thankfully as of Wednesday my school's principal agreed that me travelling into London on trains and buses was too much of a risk to the people I help look after. Additionally 10 of the 14 staff in my department were either off sick, self isolating (one visited Italy) or given leave due to underlying conditions I've been doing limited working from home since Wednesday and definitely feel safer outside London where things are ahead of the rest of the UK. I do know someone who probably has the illness, he's got the high fever and possibly pneumonia - says it feels like his lungs are full. And the nice nurse who talked with him over the phone says they can't admit him to hospital until it's so bad he can't speak. He's in his 30s too and usually as strong as the proverbial ox. After today's school day the schools in the UK close......except they're remaining open to the offspring of essential workers. It is still unclear if my "work from home when we send you documents to work on" will be ongoing or if they'll ask me back. I fully accept that a possible 3-4 months (or more) off on full pay is a big ask. I'm glad they're currently enabling me to still care for the people I care about.

This is not "stupid" or "annoying". This is genuinely killing people. Spouses, parents, children, nieces, nephews.

As for physical shops, some areas of the world are on "lockdown" with only essential shops open. I am given to understand this means supermarkets, bakers, butchers, pet stores (for pet food), DIY stores for essentials, pharmacies. Places like camera shops would be closed. However business may continue online if that's seen as viable. A one or two person operation may be able to continue.

Here in the UK we're not on such a lockdown, though we're encouraged to work from home and avoid close social contact....so we're encouraged not to go to restaurants and pubs but they're not closed. I was last "out and about" on Wednesday evening and there were certainly far fewer people in the restaurants in town but there were a few. The one restaurant I looked into had hand sanitiser stations on the walls and were carefully sanitising each table after each use. But....that may not be sufficient in coming weeks. We pretty much know that a more severe "lockdown" is coming here. Though thankfully Londoners are being fairly sensible - trips on London Transport are down over 60%, even 80% in some areas. Our graph isn't following that of Italy. But we'll still need to be careful. It is said there are 12,000 ventilators in the country. We need to be sure that at any time there are no more than 12,000 people needing them.

Annoying? No. Challenging? Yes. It's going to be detrimental to careers, livelihoods, mental health and to the world's economies. Probably like nothing since world war II. Hopefully it won't last as long. It almost certainly won't be as damaging as that war if we actually follow the advice given. It's going to be challenging to change our ways too. But it's already having unpredicted effects on the environment...dolphins back in the canals of Venice which are visibly running cleaner too....atmospheric measurements already showing that the decrease in travel has caused improvements.

Meanwhile, while the UK is not on lockdown, I plan on taking a walk soon to local parks to take photos of the wildlife and landscape - as such walks are specifically recommended. In the UK the National Trust has opened up it's parks and gardens for free - though houses and cafes are shut. Such outdoor spaces - while we are not in de facto lockdwon - are a great opportunity to get outdoors and to take photos. Then we can continue to support the film manufacturers, darkroom supply manufacturers, labs and so on. Even if we have to post our films to labs we previously visited on foot.

Very well said.
I think some people can only see "just in front of their nose". They either have no empathy or can't see the bigger picture or are just very selfish.
Ordering online is good, provided the logistics are still functioning, but why expect the postal worker or courier to risk themselves to deliver a packet of film when they could be delivering more important packages.
 
It's all so annoying.

And stupid.
Does this refer to idiots who don't take the SARS-CoV-2 virus, or the COVID-19 disease it causes irrespective of victims' ages, or the extreme measures necessary to prevent millions of deaths from it, seriously? If so, I agree. Those idiots are extraordinarily annoying and stupid. Not to mention dangerous. They are to be ignored when they spout nonsense and, in my opinion, arrested if and when they violate quarantine / lock down orders, imprisoned with others who behaved the same way and put at the very end of the line for treatment.
...I think some people can only see "just in front of their nose"...
I think you give those people too much credit for visual acuity. They are unable to image even as far as their apex nasi.
 
One last point regarding ordering online. How do you know that the parcel you receive is free from the virus?
Do you take the couriers word for it?
In situations like this pandemic, the devil is in the detail.
 
One last point regarding ordering online. How do you know that the parcel you receive is free from the virus?
Do you take the couriers word for it?
In situations like this pandemic, the devil is in the detail.

Easy, assume it isn't free of the virus, don't lick the stuff, and wash your hands after unpacking.

If you're really paranoid about it, chuck it in a closet for a week or so to be well outside the virus's lifespan on hard surfaces.
 
One last point regarding ordering online. How do you know that the parcel you receive is free from the virus?
Do you take the couriers word for it?
In situations like this pandemic, the devil is in the detail.

This was discussed in an NBC special report last night. The box should be preferably left outdoors for a minimum 24 hours or completely disinfected, unpack while wearing protection and discard outer box and packaging. Lives at least 24 hour maybe longer on cardboard and longer on other surfaces.
 
Last night 19 March California's governor ordered state-wide Stay At Home Order.
 
If you're really paranoid about it, chuck it in a closet for a week or so to be well outside the virus's lifespan on hard surfaces

I wasn't being paranoid, but this is a very serious situation. ( I am normally a laid back type of person, I am Irish after all so don't expect a fast reaction to anything):D
The fact it is still spreading means we are not taking it serious enough or not doing what is required.
Have a look here if you think I am overreacting.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-as-citys-crematorium-is-overwhelmed-11959994

I don't wish to scaremonger or frighten but this virus does not recognise political borders, countries, or whether you like HP5 or Tri-X.
 
I've ordered stuff from overseas. China and Japan. I guess since it takes so long, I'll be pretty safe with the stuff inside. I just have to throw out the outer carton touched by local delivery people in the last 24 hours and then wash my hands.
 
The fact it is still spreading means we are not taking it serious enough or not doing what is required.
In this arguing you overlok the retardation in effect by the incubation time.
 
Last night 19 March California's governor ordered state-wide Stay At Home Order.

yep, I’m in Sonoma County. We’ve been in lockdown since early this week. I still have mail service and film is still showing up in the mail to be processed, and my amazon and ebay storefronts are still up and running, I called the city business licensing division in my city and asked them if I had to close and they said that I had to close to the public, but could continue to operate the parts of my business that I could do that did not require face to face interactions, so mailing out film people bought, and processing/scanning film are still on, but portraits, local film drop off/pickups, darkroom/studio rental, etc are off. It’s going to be this way for a while.

Unfortunately, many if not all of my suppliers have closed up shop, so once I’m sold out of what film I have on hand, that’s it unless I can find a source that is still open and willing to ship to me. Strangely enough, the rate at which that much of it has been selling at, I’ll be completely out of most of it by the end of the month. It’s bad enough that I’ve lost a significant chunk of income for the foreseeable future in not being able to take appointments, but once my stock runs out I effectively won’t have that income either.

Hopefully we’re only in lockdown for a few more weeks, otherwise this is going to really hurt for a lot of small business owners.
 
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