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So I miss loaded a roll of 220 film nonetheless (!) in my GW690iii. By miss loading I mean the film roll release button (that holds the roll in place) on the feeding (left) side was not pushed in before I closed the back door. I only noticed that it was still popped out after I had already taken several shots, and attempting to push it back in then did not work. It seems to be binding on something (the film roll would be my wild guess..) and I did not try to force it.
So... camera still winds and shoots fine. But is this a lost roll?
 

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Take it to Samy's on Sepulveda and have them fix it in the darkroom.

OR

Do you have a changing bag to open the camera in the dark?
 

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Was the camera back lock erect before snapping it shut? Try re-closing as per the instructions.
 
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No changing bag, but I made sure to tension the film as it was being closed. Opening it would cause it to loose all tension. And yes the back lock was erect. So it closed properly. The question is, what will this do to the images on the roll? Anything at all? The film still is being 'held' by the pressure plate. I've shot 9 out of the 16 images.
 

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Seven more photographs and you will know.
 

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If the the back is closed properly and the pressure plate is holding the film flat, I would think everything will be fine.
 

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What about just opening the camera up in the dark, loading it correctly, advancing the film in
the dark to the start, shoot the same number of frames you did originally (in the dark), then advance
one or two frames past that to be sure you don't overlap...then off you go.

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It "SHOULD" be fine. The back measures the film advance with a roller, so it should be advancing the correct amount. The supply spool might run a bit crooked, but there is really no where for it to go, the film might run a little to one side, and that might cause some film flatness issues. If you open the back, I would not reload it, as the electronic system would assume you put a new roll in, and advance as if you had a leader.

How important are the next 7 images.
 
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Thanks for the comments. I'll finish off the roll as a science experiment for the greater good and see what it did.
:wink:
 

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My lab will let me have them develop a roll and then, after inspection, make the decision whether to scan or proof, or not. If you are unsure you might wish to raise that possibility with your lab.
 

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I don't know the design of the GW690iii so I was wondering: if the "film roll release button" isn't pushed down, might there be a possible light leak during shooting? Or is the design of this camera light proof?
 

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... the electronic system would assume you put a new roll in, and advance as if you had a leader.
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GW690III (or any GW) ain't got no elektricky bits... 100% manual, not even a meter.
 

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It "SHOULD" be fine. The back measures the film advance with a roller, so it should be advancing the correct amount. The supply spool might run a bit crooked, but there is really no where for it to go, the film might run a little to one side, and that might cause some film flatness issues. If you open the back, I would not reload it, as the electronic system would assume you put a new roll in, and advance as if you had a leader.

How important are the next 7 images.

There are no electronics in a Fuji GS690III.
 

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There may not be any electronics, but there is a mechanical system that will be reset if you open the back. The camera will expect the film to be wound to the START line and will then wind forward a bit before stopping on '1.' So getting back on track, while possible, is probably not worth the effort.
 

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I'd just wind it through in the dark, re-roll the film in the dark, re-load in the dark, shoot past the number of exposed images
in the dark and yer good to go. Or, just reload another roll of film FCS. I have one of these cameras.
 
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I'd just wind it through in the dark, re-roll the film in the dark, re-load in the dark, shoot past the number of exposed images
in the dark and yer good to go. Or, just reload another roll of film FCS. I have one of these cameras.

What am I missing here? When you completely wind it through the end is at the top of the roll as the film has been transferred to the accepting spool - which is why you have the adhesive sealing strip. So how can you then reload that? It wouldn't work as it would be reversed.
It's not like a 35mm roll of film where the film is wound back into the cassette from whence it came.

Anyway, I've decided to just shoot it through and see what the outcome is. I'll be reporting back so everyone can learn from my miss-hap..
 
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I don't know the design of the GW690iii so I was wondering: if the "film roll release button" isn't pushed down, might there be a possible light leak during shooting? Or is the design of this camera light proof?
Yeah, I'm wondering about a light leak too..
If it does leak, then it'll be like using a 6X9 Holga!
 
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There are no electronics in a Fuji GS690III.

Not in it, but on it as I added a black Voigtlander Light Meter VCII to it. Looks perfect in the hot shoe. Maybe not so much help though when one doesn't load the film correctly!
 

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There are no electronics in a Fuji GS690III.

My bad - I had GX680 in my head, and was so excited someone else was shooting it....

But same results (although it is a bit easier to re-spool and re-load the GW).
 

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If the the back is closed properly and the pressure plate is holding the film flat, I would think everything will be fine.
I've got same camera, keep shooting, it shouldn't make any difference. The feed spool is redundant at this point as long as the film/paper feeds smoothly. I miss 220.
Mike
 

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What am I missing here? When you completely wind it through the end is at the top of the roll as the film has been transferred to the accepting spool - which is why you have the adhesive sealing strip. So how can you then reload that? It wouldn't work as it would be reversed.
It's not like a 35mm roll of film where the film is wound back into the cassette from whence it came.

Anyway, I've decided to just shoot it through and see what the outcome is. I'll be reporting back so everyone can learn from my miss-hap..

Put the end of the film in to another spool and wind the film from the original spool on to the second spool. Yes, the film will make a bulge in the the paper, so let the roll a little loose so the paper and film even out and then tight the roll. I have never gotten all the bulge out. The reload the camera.
 
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