I love it - the Nikon N80

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I was thinking of price, not construction.

Maybe a bit less expensive than good MF or newer AF, but not much. A 50mm or 85mm 1.4 is still going to cost more than pocket change, especially in good shape.
 

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The stickiest Nikon I have ever encountered. Took quite a while to get it all clean.
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The N80 latch is slightly different than that of the F100. If one follows the F100 instructions the latch can be not deep enough to accept the camera's grabbers. So, I had to place the metal latch a little farther outward, so the bottom of the metal latches were at the exact same level as the plastic joining part. On the F100, the metal latches sit a little below the level of the plastic joining part.

Therefore to get it to close, I needed to take some metal off the area indicated: [insert shows N80 latch which is a little different from F100 latch]

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Keep off eBay or places that might be “inspired” by eBay prices. The scourge of the used marked is people treating eBay as a price catalog.
It’s not!
Local thrift stores, flea markets, asking around when people discuss cameras, small photo stores, sometimes local classifieds.
It was quite a popular camera, and for good reason, so it pops up quite a bit.
People also, rightly, assume that the customer will be turned off my the almost universal sticky issue. And the price often reflects that.
Thank you, Helge!
In regards to the sticky issue, I never knew it was ubiquitous. I remember when I took it to get the door fixed (10 years ago), the guy mentioned that it was very sticky (and asked me what I had done LOL) and that he had cleaned it. Good to know it can be easily cleaned.
 
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Clicked off 16 shots with the 35mm f2 yesterday. Another lens that balances perfectly with this camera.

 

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I just got back from my first roll with the N80, coincidentally I was using the 35/2.0 also. 35mm is more of a normal lens to me. I have a 50, but can't say I use it much except I have the Nikon close up lenses for it, and use it as a make-shift macro lens.
 
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So….is the 35mm f2 a keeper or still on Craigslist?

It's still on craigslist as I put it there before I bought the N80. It suffers from the common complaint with this lens of oily blades. Even though functionally it works just fine and gives great pics.
But now that I have the N80, I may reconsider once I develop this film! With the F6 I use the Sigma Art 35 behemoth.
 
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Finished roll #3. For the last few shots I used the 28-80 lens that came with it just to see how it is. Compared to a prime like the 50 1.8G, it doesn't 'feel' as nice. It zooms out by itself if you point it down, even though it is not a push/pull zoom.

Just mounted the 50 1.4D; see how it goes. The size and balance is great.

 

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Finished roll #3. For the last few shots I used the 28-80 lens that came with it just to see how it is. Compared to a prime like the 50 1.8G, it doesn't 'feel' as nice. It zooms out by itself if you point it down, even though it is not a push/pull zoom.

Just mounted the 50 1.4D; see how it goes. The size and balance is great.


Is that the same lens that often comes with the N75? I have three of those lenses and they don’t zoom out by themselves - at least not yet.

I’m interested to hear/see a comparison of the three lenses you’re using.
 
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Is that the same lens that often comes with the N75? I have three of those lenses and they don’t zoom out by themselves - at least not yet.

I’m interested to hear/see a comparison of the three lenses you’re using.

The one that came with the N75 was the later G version.
 
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Ok, an interesting and kinda annoying N80 'feature'
Even if you are using a D lens i.e. a chipped AF lens with an aperture ring, you have to set the aperture to minimum, and can only change the aperture by using one of the dials on the camera body. Even if in aperture priority!
For some reason I thought w a chipped lens, and aperture ring, you could use the aperture ring. Not a biggie, but made me refer to the owner's manual as I thought the camera was maybe not working correctly..
I also checked it with a manual focus chipped lens - a Nikon AI-P - and same thing. You have to have the lens aperture ring at min setting, and control the aperture via the camera.

In other news, the meter can be set down to ISO 6, and then you can add three more stops via the exposure compensation! Awesome! Loading some Blue Ultra ISO 3 film as we speak. Plus it will also be able to use Slow Your Roll ISO 1.5..
 
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Also... if you have the ISO set manually, it resets to DX if you open the back/replace/load a new roll of film.
 

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Yes, N55, N75, N80, and perhaps all the other non-PRO AF cameras won't let one use the aperture ring on any lens. That is ok by me because, even though I hate the dial, the aperture ring on all the Nikkor lenses turns the wrong way 😝
 

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Also... if you have the ISO set manually, it resets to DX if you open the back/replace/load a new roll of film.

Check out "Custom #2" which should disable this 'feature.'

I also like "Custom #14" to rattle off multiple rapid exposures on a single frame. The N75 can't do that.
 
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Just finished that roll I loaded about 2 hours ago.
Did I mention this camera is really fun to use?
The lens you have on it makes all the difference. With a small AF prime - perfect. With a zoom - even the small and excellent 28-80 D and G types? It just loses some of that, as the French say, I do not know what..
 

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Ok, an interesting and kinda annoying N80 'feature'
Even if you are using a D lens i.e. a chipped AF lens with an aperture ring, you have to set the aperture to minimum, and can only change the aperture by using one of the dials on the camera body. Even if in aperture priority!
For some reason I thought w a chipped lens, and aperture ring, you could use the aperture ring. Not a biggie, but made me refer to the owner's manual as I thought the camera was maybe not working correctly..
I also checked it with a manual focus chipped lens - a Nikon AI-P - and same thing. You have to have the lens aperture ring at min setting, and control the aperture via the camera.

So, kind of a random remark, but I have a possible explanation for this. On Nikon AF/chipped lenses with an aperture ring, I don't think they have an encoder to tell the CPU which position the ring is set at, only a switch that tells if the ring is set to the minimum aperture. On cameras that have a mechanical aperture tab to sense the aperture ring (FE, FA, F4, N8008, N90, F100, etc, etc), the camera senses where the lens aperture ring is set, so you should be able to control it in A mode with the lens. (Technically, I think it senses how many stops down you are from wide open, not the absolute value of the f-number.)

However, on a camera like the N80 with no aperture following tab, if you turn the lens ring off the minimum aperture, neither the lens CPU or camera CPU knows the set aperture/position of the ring.

You can use the camera dial to control aperture, though, because the camera+lens has open-loop mechanical control of the aperture. For all AF lenses (and MF AI-S lenses), Nikon made the aperture diameter linear with the motion of the stop down lever. So the camera can control how much the lens stops down by the motion of the lever.

This may seem Byzantine, but it's part of how they managed to retrofit the camera-lens interface to allow control from both electronic and mechanical cameras.
 
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So, kind of a random remark, but I have a possible explanation for this. On Nikon AF/chipped lenses with an aperture ring, I don't think they have an encoder to tell the CPU which position the ring is set at, only a switch that tells if the ring is set to the minimum aperture. On cameras that have a mechanical aperture tab to sense the aperture ring (FE, FA, F4, N8008, N90, F100, etc, etc), the camera senses where the lens aperture ring is set, so you should be able to control it in A mode with the lens. (Technically, I think it senses how many stops down you are from wide open, not the absolute value of the f-number.)

However, on a camera like the N80 with no aperture following tab, if you turn the lens ring off the minimum aperture, neither the lens CPU or camera CPU knows the set aperture/position of the ring.

You can use the camera dial to control aperture, though, because the camera+lens has open-loop mechanical control of the aperture. For all AF lenses (and MF AI-S lenses), Nikon made the aperture diameter linear with the motion of the stop down lever. So the camera can control how much the lens stops down by the motion of the lever.

This may seem Byzantine, but it's part of how they managed to retrofit the camera-lens interface to allow control from both electronic and mechanical cameras.

That makes sense. Thanks!
 

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Just finished that roll I loaded about 2 hours ago.
Did I mention this camera is really fun to use?
The lens you have on it makes all the difference. With a small AF prime - perfect. With a zoom - even the small and excellent 28-80 D and G types? It just loses some of that, as the French say, I do not know what..

I was thinking about this last week as I shot some digital with a superzoom.

I have a couple of fantastic f mount zoom lenses. I never use them, save the 70-200 which I use for special purposes. That rig is like work, but that's OK because it's one I use when I'm working. But for fun shooting, I never use the zooms. Ever. It's always a prime and I still much prefer the older AF-D to the G series.

A light, compact AF-D lens is just right for the plastic fantastic era Nikons. The rolls I shot with my 8008s were all with an AF50, it is just a perfect match for the camera.
 
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