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Stick with the camera that is working, and keep your eye on it, as it's liable to STOP working.
You mentioned that recent C41 rolls turned out to be ok. Did you look at the negatives, or only the prints?
C41 can bear quite a bit of overexposure. I once shot a 400 film with 100 setting by mistake, and just looking at the prints I
didn't see a problem with them. Ok, comparing them with correct exposed prints reveiled that they are not as good, but
I saw it only when comparing them side by side.
So it could be the camera had the problem before and you just didn't notice it.
I was helped through some of these start up issues by having a very good teacher way back in junior high school watch all that I was doing and evaluate results after every roll. We used the school's film, had to use the same camera for the semester, and basically it was all about eliminating variables. This has carried over to my more recent darkroom/processing work at home, and while I have experimented more than I probably should have with different film, much of my process is the same for each roll.
It sounds like you've gotten a lot of the basics honed in and are almost there, so keep at it. Maybe shoot only the Nikon for b&w at home until you get the Hexar figured out.
Do you do this intentionally and if so why?
That being said I find nothing wrong with the exposure of your negatives. They certainly appear to be within the latitude of the film. I am unfamiliar with the Hexar but from descriptions it appears to average the scene. If so then large portions of sky or shadow can throw off the metering. Meter on the most important element of the scene.
A last question is why are you using an aperture of f/2?
First of all, looking at the negs I see a lot of bleed between frames and the rebated edge on the overexposed frames. To me that says that if you changed nothing between the good shots and you see this overexposed result, you have a camera failure. Looks to me like the shutter is sticking or the aperture is sticking. Look into the lens from the front and the back with a magnifying glass and see if there is oil on either the aperture blades or the shutter blades. Most probably the shutter is causing the problem.
Secondly, take the camera and open the back or remove the back and aim the camera at a table lamp or some light source (illuminated white wall) and run twenty to forty exposures. Look into the back of the camera and get some sense of the amount of light you are seeing and then run the exposures. You will be able to see a much brighter 'flash' if you have a sticking shutter or the aperture blades are not closing. Between the lens shutters are extremely vulnerable to the slightest bit of oil. If the camera were left, for example, in a hot car during the summer months, the oils/grease will migrate from the focusing helicoid into the shutter blade/aperture blades. If it is not a migrating lube problem, then I would suspect a failure in the electronics.
Be sure when peering through the back of the camera to try all exposure modes including manual to see if the auto modes may be failing. Hopefully, this way you will be able to isolate the reason for the heavily overexposed frames. Also, try and duplicate the shooting situations you encounter by running the open back test outside. It is more difficult to evaluate in bright sunlight since your pupils will be closed but with that much overexposure you certainly will see a difference. Try different apertures, such as 16, and run a batch of dummy exposures. F16 will be obvious when you look through the back. If it fails to close down, you will see it immediately.
Lastly, doing the open back exercise may help if it is a camera that hasn't been used much. I typically will run a 100 open back exposures at all apertures and all shutter speeds with a new(used) camera just to exercise because most cameras I buy are likely to have been sitting in the closet and not used for a while.
It is definitely an exposure problem with the camera. Now it's up to you to find the issue! Good luck!
Do you know how many rolls of film I f***ed up when I started? Calculators don't count that high!
I agree! Pick one camera, one film, one set of chemistry and use one method of using it all. Don't change anything unless you have to. (To solve a problem or correct a mistake.) Do everything the same way every time. Do it until you can do it with your eyes shut.
The quick answer is that using several cameras and doing things different ways introduces more variables into the system. When you are learning, you want to keep things as simple as possible until you understand how everything works.
I know it's discouraging when mistakes keep happening but this is the time to keep going, not the time to quit. The frustration is part of the learning process. Stop now and you won't learn anything. Everything you have done will be for nothing. In business, that's what's called a "sunk cost."
Keep it up! You'll get the hang of it!
As Thomas Edison said, "I have not failed. I have just found 1,000 ways that don't work."
Unless you are really handy or very brave, I wouldn't recommend a DIY CLA. Here in Pennsylvania they run about $150. If you're going to keep the camera, its a good investment. There are so many small gears, electronics,etc that is crammed into a small space, it's not something that would be easy to do.<snip>
I really don't want to have to give up the Hexar, it's been a dream to use on the streets. So much easier than my Nikon's or my Yashica. So this cleaning - would it be easy to do myself?
But unless you moonlight as a watchmaker, you probably don't want to tackle doing it yourself.
You don't find anything wrong with my negs? How so? There are a bunch that look almost black, with light bleeds. I almost always meter on the important part of the frame, the other times I don't by accident.
+1
Like any other craft, doing it well takes some practice and experience. Assuming you can rule out equipment problems/failures, keep going and don't give up so fast. It can take some time. Who ever said making great negatives and prints is supposed to be the easiest thing anyway?
hi h.v.
i wish i had such good advice when i started out ..
one thing you might consider doing is getting a 100 foot long roll of film
and roll your own film cassettes. you won't save much $$ BUT you will be able
to shoot shorter rolls of film, maybe 12 exposures, like real estate agents used to shoot
and get the bugs out of the system. PLUS you will have more experience by the end of it all
spooling your film, and processing rolls
older cameras always need to be cla'd you and your camera will be much happier once you get it back to tip top shape.
i hate to suggest this, but one thing you might consider is a totally manual camera like a k1000 ( or similar )
so you can set the asa, set the shutter speed and set the focus yourself without worrying that the
camera's computer is on the blink. i got mine in 1981 and to be honest i would rather use it than
the more fancy 35mm cameras i have, its solid and dependable ...
The only two negatives that seem very dark are #19 and #20 in trhe lower right hand corner. Medium and fast speed films have a latitude of from 3 stops over exposed to 1 shop underexposed. Within this range you should be able to get good prints.
What concerns me more is that the overexposure seems erratic not appearing in every frame. This would suggest a problem the camera. I would first try to borrow a light meter and a 18% gray card. With the camera set to manual exposure take a few exposures metering carefully on the gray card. Then on the same roll with the camera set on auto take a second set. Use the same scenes and setup for both sets of exposures. If the two sets of negatives are very different then there is something wrong with the camera.
Another simpler test would be to use the "sunny 16 rule." Since the Hexar only goes up to 1/250 sec use a film with an ISO of 100 to 125. Again using manual mode, set the aperture at f/16 and the speed to 1/125 sec. Then take several pictures of sunnily lit scenes. Develop the film according to your developers instructions. The negatives should be exposed properly.
It may well be true what you're saying about setting the lens to maximum aperture, but that runs counter to normal practice for every other camera I've ever seen that has an auto-exposure feature. Normally, you set the lens to minimum aperture, and the camera will adjust to whatever it needs. If you have the lens set at something other than minimum, it will not stop down past the aperture you've set, and so it can run out of faster shutter speeds to compensate and yield an overexposed negative. IF this is the case, leaving the lens set at f2 would certainly explain the overexposed film, as would the 1/250th maximum shutter speed. Using Sunny 16 as a guide rule, if you're shooting 400 speed film, in full daylight you should be getting f16 @ 1/400th second as proper exposure. This is already beyond the capability of your camera. So first, I would try switching to ISO 100 film, and see if that alleviates your random overexposures. Second, I'd re-read the instruction manual (or find one if you don't have one- there's a great source for them online http://www.butkus.org/chinon/ ) and verify the program exposure mode works the way you've described. Try shooting a roll with the lens set to minimum aperture, not maximum, and see what that does.
The only thing I can think of is there is an Olympus Stylus Epic (Mju I believe outside of North America) that I can get my hands on for $30. I've heard it's good for street photography, though I don't know how loud it is. Maybe I can snatch that up while I figure out the Hexar. I was thinking of getting it anyways for stuff through windows, as the Hexar doesn't really focus through windows well 95% of the time.
Electric contact cleaner is typically a spray chemical. You would have to figure out how to get the inner switch contacts exposed in order to direct some cleaner in there.
Of course you want to avoid getting the cleaning solution where it doesn't belong.
Apologies if this has been covered already, but is your film fresh/known good? I've just developed some rolls of 120 format that are *very* expired and the frames towards the outside of the roll as it has sat unexposed all these years are dark/fogged to the point of being impossible to print.
Also, I have a Stylus Epic (same as Mju 2) and the film advance is fairly loud. Not as loud as a motor drive SLR but I couldn't take a shot on the street without someone nearby hearing it. Manual advance, leaf-shutter rangefinder or scale focus viewfinder cam might be your best bet for the street work. I have an Olympus 35 EC 2 that winds on like a disposable/re-usable plastic camera.
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