I am a bit miffed, please read!

Frank Petronio · Feb 13, 2006

Hey Dave, Tell your wife to give me a call and I'll put a smile on her face ;-)

jovo · Feb 13, 2006

Someone once told me to regard the kind of abuse you describe as if it were the barking of a dog. It's indeed irritating and maybe even a bit scary for a moment but no more significant than that.

You do excellent work and the many of us who have your screens know it. Hopefully Fido will go gnaw on his tail and leave you and your wife alone.

Louis Mutch · Feb 14, 2006

I have used your glass in my 4x5 and I don't miss the grid never looked at it any way maybe I am lame but I look at the composition not the grid.

Alexz · Feb 14, 2006

Well, Dave, I recieved you GG a while ago (and not shooting 8x10 reserves my right not to be that crock who irritated you wife, besides, for me it would be a long call...) but have yet installed due to lack of time and willing to get acquinted with my regular 4x5 glass first. I'm considering drawing the grid myself by pencil, doesn't seem to be a big deal at all (albeit I would still prefer a regular grid on it).

vet173 · Feb 14, 2006

As was stated before when you do retail this happens sometimes. I can take it all day long and let it go out the other ear, insult my wife though, and I'm ready to break bones.
Alexz, don't worry about getting aquainted with that red headed stepchild of a regular ground glass. Get that Satin Snow on there and go directly to nirvana.

Alexz · Feb 14, 2006

Yeah, but my concern was the possibility of improper installation of the srceen. I'm a newbie into LF, just gaining my practicle experience with 4x5 so intended to build up my self-confidence while checking proper GG installation. (Once I'll be fine focusing on factory installed GG and obtaining appropriate results, I'll be confident in checking visually whether I installed new GG properly).
In fact, my several last outings ended up by technically good results, i.e. GG focusing is proving itself, so I guess I'm gettign ready to make the BIG change in GGs...

BTW, there original GG is held by two holders each of them screwed to the back frame by two screws. Am I expected to tight up the new GG by exactly the same amount of force applied to the screws (i.e. exactly the same number of turns for each one) to preserve percise GG locations ? (given SS GG thickness is similar to the original GG).

Digidurst · Feb 14, 2006

Satinsnow said:
I am sorry guys, I probably got a bit hotter than I should have...but to be abusive, just really made me a bit mad....

I have called a hell of alot of companies in my life, looking for certain products, when I asked, if they said no we don't do that, I always say thanks and go to the next company, but being abusive is not needed..

Again, I am sorry, just had to vent a bit, as with many of you, I am sure, if you came home to a wife, who was a bit upset, it would get ya real quick.

Thanks, you guys are great!

Dave

Aww gee, it happens to the best of us sometimes. Rude people irk me something fierce too! But try not to sweat it - just remember they have to live with themselves and just can't be pleasant

mark · Feb 14, 2006

Alexz said:
Yeah, but my concern was the possibility of improper installation of the srceen. I'm a newbie into LF, just gaining my practicle experience with 4x5 so intended to build up my self-confidence while checking proper GG installation. (Once I'll be fine focusing on factory installed GG and obtaining appropriate results, I'll be confident in checking visually whether I installed new GG properly).
In fact, my several last outings ended up by technically good results, i.e. GG focusing is proving itself, so I guess I'm gettign ready to make the BIG change in GGs...

BTW, there original GG is held by two holders each of them screwed to the back frame by two screws. Am I expected to tight up the new GG by exactly the same amount of force applied to the screws (i.e. exactly the same number of turns for each one) to preserve percise GG locations ? (given SS GG thickness is similar to the original GG).

Installing the new GG is not rocket science. Just tighten the screws. I am not being flipant. LF is much less demanding thatn changing things on, say, a medium format camera. I have done both. The adjustable GG on a MF camera is a plain ol' PIA. On the LF cameras I have the, changing the GG was so easy I knew I did something wrong. Not the case. It was just that simple. In reality a LF camera is amuch simpler machine than the smaller formats. Good luck and welcome to LF

k_jupiter · Feb 14, 2006

Oh yeah Dave, I want to complain too about the 8 x 10 GG you sent me. It doesn't fit my 5 x7 camera. What kind of customer service do you do anyway?

*L*

tim in san jose

Capocheny · Feb 16, 2006

"When you find him, send him hunting with Dick Cheney..."

LMAO.... great one!

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Dave,

Teach your wife the fundamentals of telephone courtesy... when you get people like that on the line, two words: First word... starts with F! Second word.... well, you get my point!

Life is far too short to worry about angry people like the guy who called. Fire him! You sure don't need clients like that! [I do it all the time to some of my pita clients and I DON'T look back! It feels SOOOOO good! ]

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Michael,

You can just send Dave a case of Screaming Eagle from any of the last few vintages... they've ALL been GREAT! It'll set you back the cost of a small car... but, what the hell!

Alternatively, a case of 2002 Quilceda Creek Cabs are also pretty tasty!

Cheers

Mike Kennedy · Feb 16, 2006

It takes all kinds doesn't it Dave.
Something very primal gets triggered when hearth and home are threatened.Its instinctive to protect the ones you love. The inability to shield your wife from this garbanzo, because it was a phone call, makes it twice as frustrating.
Just remember that "Further on down the road...." this smag head will shoot off his/her mouth to the wrong person.What goes around comes around.

Mike

PS: When I worked in the public sector, worse than doing time in hell, my favorite reply to someone who was going batman on my butt was:

"I have been called worse things,
by better people"

Marv · Feb 16, 2006

A friend of mine had a small one hour photo/camera store. He had some decent consumer tripods on hand. A "pro" was in town to shoot some conversion van interiors. He had "forgotten" his tripod. The owner of the conversion company was a friend of the camera store owner and called to see if he could borrow a tripod for the day. When the "pro" arrived he sniffed at the inferior tripods he was "borrowing" not renting. My friend loaned it to him out of respect to the business owner; if it was for his friendship he would have told the "pro" to pack sand.

The moral of the story, so many idiots so few bullets.

Donald Qualls · Feb 17, 2006

Marv said:
The moral of the story, so many idiots so few bullets.

And that pretty much covers that.

vet173 · Feb 17, 2006

Ya shoulda told him," How bout I come over and rape your dishes".

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