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dxphoto

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I am going to try to push the HP5+ to 3200 for the first time. I have only pushed trix to 1600. Do you have any recommendations for pushing hp5 to 3200 in terms of the developer (i have d76 and ddx) and dilution (ddx 1+9?). How is the finial result of pushing HP5?
 

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I shot 25+ rolls of HP5+ @ 3200 last summer, developed in Microphen (ten min..? I forget). .. Love the stuff... Can't really say that I got anything in the shadows.. but then again.. it's 3200 .. . . I'm not familia with ddx, but I'd definetly recomend any kind of developer that will allow you to gain some aparent film speed... Microphen, Xtol .. ..
I actually have another seven rolls waiting to develop, but I just won't do it with what I have on the shelf at the moment... Perceptol...
 

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I shot HP5 at 3200 a couple of times. I also use Microphen 1+0, but for 16:00. Results can be found at:

http://www.pbase.com/romosoho/image/22567342/medium
http://www.pbase.com/romosoho/image/22567337/medium
http://www.pbase.com/romosoho/image/23089848/medium
http://www.pbase.com/romosoho/image/23089849/medium

DDX is often described as the liquid equivalent to Microphen, so I think you'd be in good shape with that at 1+9. I used the MDC time for Microphen so perhaps that would be a good starting point for you, as well. It lists stock at 14:00 and 1+4 at 20:00. I guess 1+9 would be in the range of 30-40 minutes. wow.

allan
 

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I am going to develop HP5, pushed to 3200, in Microphen for the first time, and could really need some help with this developer. On the package it says that you can develop 10 120-films on 1+0 solution, even if stock solution is only 1 litre, and my developing-tank takes 1 litre and only 4 films at the same time. Does this mean that I can re-use the developer for 6 more films? The package doesn't say anything about it.
Help is much appreciated :smile:
 

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Sigve said:
. . . Does this mean that I can re-use the developer for 6 more films? The package doesn't say anything about it.

Essentially, yes, you can re-use the developer for additional films. But, the development time for subsequent "batches" usually needs to be increased somewhat. Download the spec sheet for the developer, and look for the section on batch processing, for specifics.
 

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Thanks. I looked up the information on ilford.com, at they don't recommend to push process films in already used developer, so I'll experiment with 1+1 dilutions and see if it works.
How is Xtol as an alternative? Is it really made of C-Vitamines or does it have to be treated as special waste too?
 

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Sigve said:
Thanks. I looked up the information on ilford.com, at they don't recommend to push process films in already used developer, so I'll experiment with 1+1 dilutions and see if it works.
How is Xtol as an alternative? Is it really made of C-Vitamines or does it have to be treated as special waste too?

Xtol pushes HP5 very well to 3200. (although I generally stop at 1600) The grain is a little more pronounced - a little smoother with Microphen. There is a little Phenidone in Xtol. - I still think it is very enviro friendly. Of course the earth is mostly molten nuclear material so I don't think a hobbiest darkroom will hurt it much. We probably do more damage driving our cars. (off topic) I would stick with the Microphen, having used both. Unless you are after the gritty look.
 

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I think I would take Delta 3200 and get much better results only if I would like to make the shadows go black and the hole scene very contrasty then I would take HP5!
 

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HP5+ is a great film for pushing, I remember doing it routinely when I used this film. My dev of choice then was D76 and clones, and the results were acceptable, didn't try doing any fine art with them though, they were mostly social life photos for newspaper.
IMHO HP5+ will give you different results than Delta 3200 and you maybe pleased.

Nowadays I favour DDX. It should work well for pushing HP5+
I think 1+4 would be better for pushing than 1+9,and the time should be in the 20 min order as suggested by Ilford. I'd probably take it easy on the agitation to keep the contrast in check though.

Doing a test roll maybe a good idea, and before reusing the developer (which works fine) do these rolls first, and the ones without pushing in the reused developer.


dxphoto said:
I am going to try to push the HP5+ to 3200 for the first time. I have only pushed trix to 1600. Do you have any recommendations for pushing hp5 to 3200 in terms of the developer (i have d76 and ddx) and dilution (ddx 1+9?). How is the finial result of pushing HP5?
 

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My favorite combination for a high speed film is Hp5+ in Microphen, anywhere from 800-3200. I've pushed it to 6400 once or twice and have gotten great (for a 6400 film) results. I much prefer it over Delta 3200 because it is cheaper and can be found repackaged in other brand names for even cheaper. Try stock microphen (can't be sure of the time) for your 3200 push. If it is really important, I'd test first. From what I remember, it printed well on grade 2.5 - 3 paper with a diffusion enlarger.
 

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This topic intrigued me so yesterday I shot some HP5+ at IE3200 and developed it in Rodinal at a dilution of 1+25 for 19 minutes using my normal agitation methed of one inversion every 30 seconds. The attached frame was shot under a ceiling light at about 6.00pm. The attachment is a quick neg scan but the results look promising, if I have time I'll make a print from this neg tonight for comparison.
 
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