How will AI affect "making" versus "taking" photo's?

[Steven Lee]

In other words, I am stating that we have a promising explanation for ALL human behavior, which will reshape (started already) all branches of science.

 

[warden]

Potatoes can be creative and artful too

AI is a tool. Artists often employ tools.

Sometimes artists employ potatoes as tools. Ruth Asawa did so brilliantly.

Ruth Asawa | Untitled (SF.045c, Potato Print – Branches, Purple/Blue)

Ruth Asawa, Untitled (SF.045c, Potato Print – Branches, Purple/Blue), c. 1951–1952. Relief print, sheet: 13 5/8 × 9 in. (34.6 × 22.9 cm) Image: 13 5/8 × 9 in. (34.6 × 22.9 cm). Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; purchase, with funds from the Drawing Committee, the Director’s...

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[Arthurwg]

Besides, if those models were so accurate, one would expect that fields like psychiatry and economics would have a much firmer grip on reality.

It's not the economists, it's the people who refuse to believe them.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Perhaps not yet, but eventually it very well might be. I’m not aware of any evidence the brain is more than a computational device (although there are plenty of conjectures). It’s exceedingly complex, but still a machine.

Also, Jackson Pollock could draw very well.

What distinguishes us is morality and knowing right from wrong. Would you want a soul-less machine deciding whether to go to war or execute another human based on some formula in its program? That's why machines can't be creative. They're formulaic. There is no room for heart.

 

[Milpool]

I understand where you’re coming from but there is no evidence to suggest the brain is anything more than an extremely complex, nevertheless soul-less machine. Neuroscience is still in relative infancy when it comes to the brain at a macro level, so it will probably be a while, but the things you’re calling distinguishing characteristics are in all likelihood just a matter of complexity.

What distinguishes us is morality and knowing right from wrong. Would you want a soul-less machine deciding whether to go to war or execute another human based on some formula in its program? That's why machines can't be creative. They're formulaic. There is no room for heart.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I understand where you’re coming from but there is no evidence to suggest the brain is anything more than an extremely complex, nevertheless soul-less machine. Neuroscience is still in relative infancy when it comes to the brain at a macro level, so it will probably be a while, but the things you’re calling distinguishing characteristics are in all likelihood just a matter of complexity.

Even if you're right, and I disagree, machines can't have that kind of complexity. They're really Mr Potato Head.

 

[Ron789]

I find it interesting to see that the discussion triggered by my initial post has evolved towards the role of AI in "art" (photographic or other).
I consider many (if not most) professional photographers to be craftsmen rather than artists: product photography, fashion, food, etc. images, all for advertising, marketing and sales purposes.... Though some may bring such photography to a level that one might call "art", most produce fairly traditional images, responding to the demand and preferences of their clients. They often do that with great craftsmanship but the artistic content is typically very thin, if any at all. I think those photographers will face hard times since AI can respond to the demand and preferences of those customers faster, more flexibly and cost effectively than a human photographer can.... "making" photos.
I do see a future for family, portraiture, journalism, sports and documentary etc. photography, since this requires the photographer to be present and interact with the subject.... "taking" photos.
So, my opinion regarding my own question: many of those who "make" photos may be facing hard times; this who "take" photos will be less affected by AI.

 

[warden]

I find it interesting to see that the discussion triggered by my initial post has evolved towards the role of AI in "art" (photographic or other).
I consider many (if not most) professional photographers to be craftsmen rather than artists: product photography, fashion, food, etc. images, all for advertising, marketing and sales purposes.... Though some may bring such photography to a level that one might call "art", most produce fairly traditional images, responding to the demand and preferences of their clients. They often do that with great craftsmanship but the artistic content is typically very thin, if any at all. I think those photographers will face hard times since AI can respond to the demand and preferences of those customers faster, more flexibly and cost effectively than a human photographer can.... "making" photos.
I do see a future for family, portraiture, journalism, sports and documentary etc. photography, since this requires the photographer to be present and interact with the subject.... "taking" photos.
So, my opinion regarding my own question: many of those who "make" photos may be facing hard times; this who "take" photos will be less affected by AI.

I think photographers that offer headshots are already feeling pressure from AI.

 

[MattKing]

I think photographers that offer headshots are already feeling pressure from AI.

The photographers that work in advertising are the most vulnerable.

 

[Sean]

AI has been helpful in my overcoming the learning curve phase of many apps, which definitely includes "Capture One" image editor. It can be a real slog getting through the learning curve on these vast image editing applications. Every time I get stuck I ask chatgpt something like, "In Capture One what are a few ways to get rid of a blue shift in my image", and it will quickly spit out a 'more than one way to skin a cat' style answer with step by step. I pick the one that makes the most sense to me and that I'm more likely to remember. I'm starting to ask it less and less. So in the context of AI helping me photographically, this is a slight yes.

 

[koraks]

and I will happily state that emotional needs and interactions are also just searches, and they are rational and not fuzzy at all.

If you've not yet read 'Brave New World' (which I find hard to imagine), I implore you to keep reading it until this 'happy' conception wears off.