+1!Switch to manual mode or start shooting film with no automatic focusing or exposure control. I find that when I shoot my film cameras, I slow down, I walk around the spot looking for the best angle. I think about the shot a lot even before opening up my tripod. Oh, that's another thing. Shoot with a tripod. That will also slow you down and force you to compose better.
yes that is the book ( its not long) ... its good, and might help you get to where you might be going.Are y’all referring to the 1948 book by Eugene Herrigel?
Switch to manual mode or start shooting film with no automatic focusing or exposure control. I find that when I shoot my film cameras, I slow down, I walk around the spot looking for the best angle. I think about the shot a lot even before opening up my tripod. Oh, that's another thing. Shoot with a tripod. That will also slow you down and force you to compose better.
I agree yet disagree. It may be difficult to transfer what one sees onto a medium and into final product, but how one sees is entirely disconnected from that process. In fact it is not only possible, but in some cases even preferable to work on developing own seeing without producing any image.Not so much with the seeing, but gear is used in the translation of seeing-to-image. Not only does one need to speak both languages to translate (seeing and image-making), but know how the different tools will affect the quality, effectiveness and accuracy of the translation.
Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy it...it's what you get here. But what's with the negative vibes, man?
I agree yet disagree. It may be difficult to transfer what one sees onto a medium and into final product, but how one sees is entirely disconnected from that process. In fact it is not only possible, but in some cases even preferable to work on developing own seeing without producing any image.
It's all cool! Right arm and farm out!!!Peace, out.
You do need to have an idea what the story is visually before you decide how you want to interpret it. Visual storys often dont have a verbal equivalent, more an emotional or visceral reaction in some fashion.This thread reminds me of a freshman course in creative writing; everyone wants to be a writer, but no one knows what they want to say.
Wait, I thought a picture was worth a thousand words.You do need to have an idea what the story is visually before you decide how you want to interpret it. Visual storys often dont have a verbal equivalent, more an emotional or visceral reaction in some fashion.
You do need to have an idea what the story is visually before you decide how you want to interpret it. Visual storys often dont have a verbal equivalent, more an emotional or visceral reaction in some fashion.
So who said messages always have to be verbal? Even an emotional or visceral reaction is a message in itself. The feeling evoked by the image may be the only message contained and still be a valid communication. So crying false just because it cant be contained in a tidy little paragraph is missing the point.False. Every image conveys some message - whether that message is intentional or not. Every image creates a conversation between the creator and the viewer. If you created an image - there was a reason you created, it - that reason is the story at the very minimum. As I said earlier - you cannot, not communicate – anyone that has studied Communications 101 knows that to be the most fundamental tenent. The story may be simple - it may be a simple image of a flower, but the story between you and the viewer can be as simple as "this was visually interesting to me" and choices you make about depth, perspective, composition, all add to the story. Or another simple image - a high contrast monochromatic image of a drainpipe on a stark concrete wall composed with mostly negative space with the pipe off to the far edge of wall - there's a message there for the viewer whether the message was created intentionally or not - the viewer will receive a message - which could be interpreted as say, "life can be hard and lonely" which may not be what the maker intended at all, but the viewer finished the conversation nevertheless. The idea of seeing is to be thoughtful and intentional about the message - no matter how simple or complex the resulting asynchronous, silent conversation with the viewer may be.
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So who said messages always have to be verbal? Even an emotional or visceral reaction is a message in itself. The feeling evoked by the image may be the only message contained and still be a valid communication. So crying false just because it cant be contained in a tidy little paragraph is missing the point.
Every image conveys some message - whether that message is intentional or not. Every image creates a conversation between the creator and the viewer.
it is possible to fail at communication - you can attempt to create something (a photograph, prose, poem, painting) that is such a word/idea salad that it at best does not communicate your intent, and at worst, is unintelligible. But just as communicating powerfully and clearly takes skill, failing to communicate requires great anti-skill. Certain politicians with a talent for word salad come to mind.You just proved my point - like I said, you cannot not communicate! Whether verbal or non-verbal you are still sending a message and a message is being received. The key question is - are you aware of the message you are sending, and how is that message being received, even if the message is just a feeling? Verbalizing it to oneself while creating an image, whether out loud or silently in one's own head, is an effective way to start 'seeing' better. Every picture tells a story - like it or not.
MFL
.... word salad ......
The important part is what the image portrays to the viewer. Does it conveigh a message? Does it tell a tale? Or does create an emotional connection?
it is possible to fail at communication - you can attempt to create something (a photograph, prose, poem, painting) that is such a word/idea salad that it at best does not communicate your intent, and at worst, is unintelligible. But just as communicating powerfully and clearly takes skill, failing to communicate requires great anti-skill. Certain politicians with a talent for word salad come to mind.
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