How to get a white back ground with color film?

[Charles Webb]

Michael,
This will be my last post on this subject. it is obvious that you and others are satisfied with what you are getting, and have no desire to believe what other fine photographers have been very unsuccessful in doing. The photo of the sunglasses would have never been accepted for publication for several reasons, the most glaring is the horizontal shadow cast behind the light grey lens on the pair in the forground. The rear position or location is casting their shadow in a very confusing manor and would never get past an art director who knew his stuff. I am very pleased that you are enough satisfied with your results to display the example as what can be done. I am in no way knocking or saying you are wrong with your display print and comments but am simply saying that the folks I worked for and with would not have accepted the example as a product photo made to sell their products. Again, the facts!

I am happy that you and Smudger are happy with your results, but
I am somewhat disappointed by the "new" technologies and the results they deliver. Somewhere down the road I hope you and Smudger realize what I and others doing illustration work with film for over fifty years have commented on in this thread. Have a great time doing your thing!

I am outa here!
Charlie...................

 

[Kimberly Anderson]

Charles,

I don't want to bash with you regarding technique and what will 'pass' for any particular art director. In fact, this was what I said in a previous comment:

"And as for being chastized or taken to task for your comments, heaven forbid! You have valid experience to share, and I'm glad you did."

I won't debate you on what is good lighting, bad lighting, etc., just as in the other thread regarding the critic and what one critic may or may not like, it is the same with art directors and photographers. As I said in the previous comment too, this example I show is one that I am able to knock out the background to a pure white *and* leave a shadow. If it's something that you don't like, or don't think that any art directors would have signed off on, then your point of view and experiences are valid. I can't dispute that, nor do I want to.

I appreciated your comments in the other thread about giving your photographs voice or soul, and value those commonalities more than the differences we have regarding technique.

The equipment you recieved training on and used sucessfully in your career served you well and I congratulate you on that.

I hope you don't go away sour from this thread thining that I have come in to say that the way I do things is better or worse. I just came into the discussion to talk about a technique that has worked for me that I hadn't seen discussed in the thread previously.

Michael,
This will be my last post on this subject. it is obvious that you and others are satisfied with what you are getting, and have no desire to believe what other fine photographers have been very unsuccessful in doing. The photo of the sunglasses would have never been accepted for publication for several reasons, the most glaring is the horizontal shadow cast behind the light grey lens on the pair in the forground. The rear position or location is casting their shadow in a very confusing manor and would never get past an art director who knew his stuff. I am very pleased that you are enough satisfied with your results to display the example as what can be done. I am in no way knocking or saying you are wrong with your display print and comments but am simply saying that the folks I worked for and with would not have accepted the example as a product photo made to sell their products. Again, the facts!

I am happy that you and Smudger are happy with your results, but
I am somewhat disappointed by the "new" technologies and the results they deliver. Somewhere down the road I hope you and Smudger realize what I and others doing illustration work with film for over fifty years have commented on in this thread. Have a great time doing your thing!

I am outa here!
Charlie...................