How to diagnose Kiev-88 stuck shutter ?

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fotolubitel

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I have one Salyut, one Salyut-S and the other day I found a very nice Kiev-88 sold as is with a stuck shutter. I wanted to try a repair, and successful or not it was to be an interesting self-learning experience.

I am aware of Steve Ash docs, the repair summary:
http://kievaholic.com/Kiev88_repair_manual.pdf
and:
http://kiev88.atwebpages.com/
the Tendo manual (good drawings but no instructions)
and I am trying to make sense fo this detailed one
http://fotorefit.ru/remont_kiev-88/1.html
there was a german book "Kiev-88/88TTL Reparaturhandbuch, Wolfgang Weiner, 1994" impossible to find these days

So, on this Kiev-88, the shutter button is stuck. When playing a bit with the rewind knob, sometimes it triggers, but only the mirror moves up, the curtain doesn't open, just sits there.
I have opened for inspection, and have a general idea of the inner working but can't figure out the parts and way the trigger button does release the curtain tensioners.
In fact I can't find out if the issue is the braking system, or tensioners or both or something else....


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I can move the main upper wheel of the shutter mechanism by hand, which makes the curtain open/close.
But i don't see/understand what parts are involved in triggering the release of the curtain.

The wheels under the rewind knob are functional: the one setting the shutter time, the big one actioning the film back advance and the main shaft getting down to the lower mechanism. But maybe some timing was wrecked?

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I can partially disassemble one of my working Salyut in order to see the mechanisms in action, but I prefer to find out without.

So, any clues? :smile:
 

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I thought I had a Chapter on Kiev 88 in the Isaak S. Maizenberg book on Russian Camera repair, but upon examination it does not cover the Kiev 88.

It looks like you have the best documents available online, so short of sending it to Arax Photo I don't know what to suggest.

Sorry!
 
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fotolubitel

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I thought I had a Chapter on Kiev 88 in the Isaak S. Maizenberg book on Russian Camera repair, but upon examination it does not cover the Kiev 88.

It looks like you have the best documents available online, so short of sending it to Arax Photo I don't know what to suggest.

well thank you anyway. I bought cheap this one with the defect, in order to learn myself, so I will persist. Will open a working one to watch the internals at work and compare :smile:
 

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well thank you anyway. I bought cheap this one with the defect, in order to learn myself, so I will persist. Will open a working one to watch the internals at work and compare :smile:

Aside from a working body, I have two myself in a similar situation, but I haven't gotten the nerve up yet to tear into them.
 
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