How to burn/dodge in color?

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albada

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Maybe a good approach would be to add 10 seconds to the time, and use that time to position the tool, while blocking the light with the other hand or cardboard. Count off 10 beeps from the timer, then expose away.

Speaking of fires, a mile from here, there's a development along a ridgeline of a mountain. I'm sure they have a great view. But pointing to that, a fireman told me, "that's a disaster waiting to happen." Around here, you don't want to be downwind (west) of brush.
 

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Hi Sirius. Depends on the jurisdiction. Most of it around here is either public land, or if developed, under various individual city jurisdictions, who are finally slowly coming to their senses and starting to tighten the screws. My other property (now sold) was on Forest Service land. Even as an inholding, you either clean up your brush and grass on schedule every year, or they come in with a court order and giant bill and do it for you. Of course, having lived through several big forest fires, I don't believe in a twenty foot clearing around a house - twenty miles makes more sense! And yes, I have experienced hot ash falling from that far away! .... But back to the topic ....

AA on Steroids? Like I already hinted earlier, doing it in color is just as easy as in black and white printing, with the one exception of it being a little bit difficult to make out the projected image if there's an integral orange mask involved due to being a color negative. And, uh, er, as per Ansel's ideas about color printing, I don't think he ever did it. He did take a number of color sheet films chromes competently exposed and then farmed them out for sake of offset printing. Get the book, Ansel Adams in Color. Not bad, not bad at all. But he had numerous photog neighbors there in Carmel who knew a thousand times more about actual color printing than he did. It always kinda mystified him. He wasn't equipped for that either.

Back in the 1970's when I bought a house in Beverly Glen the brush came up to the patio, like a jungle. I paid a local guy to clear it back fifteen feet right away. Every year I would have him extend the cleared range and after about fifteen years I had it cleared to the ridge line. After the first five years, one by one the neighbors started extending their clearing and finally we had our small canyon cleared of brush. The Fair Plan insurance costs first for me and then for my neighbors dropped as the clearing extended and even those people who had the fire department clear their brush at large cost started clearing the brush themselves. In the over fifty years since that area which was burned by the 1961 fire, has not had even a small fire breakout or spread through it.
 

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When burning and/or dodging I already have a first trial print made so I have a pretty good idea of what I am going to be doing with my hands. Color paper is very fast and I have had to stop down and even dial in some ND with cyan to lengthen exposure. I have heard about color shifts from dodging/burning but never experienced them myself. Have fun and don’t worry about it- once you get the hang of RA4 it’s pretty easy and enjoyable.
If you have the correct colour balance using magenta and yellow, dialing in cyan as a neutral density filter WILL without doubt send you colour balance way off tangent. With subtractive printing you cannot just alter one filter to use the effect as a neutral density .
 

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If you have the correct colour balance using magenta and yellow, dialing in cyan as a neutral density filter WILL without doubt send you colour balance way off tangent. With subtractive printing you cannot just alter one filter to use the effect as a neutral density .
Yes, dial in the cyan and an equal number of cc units in yellow and magenta of course.
 

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The presumption is that all three filter sets (CMY) are still in equally good condition, and that any remaining white light spillover is negligible. That's probably not going to be exactly the case, but is likely to be close enough so that just a little re-tweaking for precise color balance is still needed. No big deal. I'd do a test strip regardless. But when doing the same kind of ND operation using my true narrow-band RGB colorheads with feedback circuitry, it's spot on, since there is no residual white light spillover at all.

But for sake of convenience, many colorheads have a built-in lower intensity option, basically an internal attenuating scrim operated by level.
 
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