where do people come up with this?
I was shocked recently to see B&H selling home-made 828! When was the last time an 828 camera was made? I don't think there are that many Bantam Specials out there. There are still billions of people who could make up a film market. Digital isn't squat without a computer to view it on. A big chunk of the world hasn't come into the computer age and won't for some time.
I'll confirm that is what I heard from various sources. I would guess that no one wants to give out the real figure and that the "real" figures varies seasonally or is based on Hollywood usage. There is also considerable use by Bollywood.
I was shocked recently to see B&H selling home-made 828! When was the last time an 828 camera was made? I don't think there are that many Bantam Specials out there. There are still billions of people who could make up a film market. Digital isn't squat without a computer to view it on. A big chunk of the world hasn't come into the computer age and won't for some time.
I do not want resolution and I do not want cleanliness. I want the ability to get what I want, and I already have that.
Doggone it! You forgot to add in the leap second from 2008!
PE
I'd say Bollywood and many other places - Cairo comes to mind - are by far more significant in film use than Holywood.
I'm a strong supporter of Kodachrome 64. If you check B&H, I predict you will find that all 35mm cameras are in the process of being discontinued, at least all the ones that aren't junk. How long can 35mm stay viable with only used cameras available?
Frank;
I've said it before.... In the long term LF sheet film and plates will be easier for the hobbyist and professional to hand craft than 35mm and therefore long term life of LF cameras and films will have the best future IMHO. It may take 100 years to see this come true, but I think it will take place the way I see it.
Chemistry will be with us as long as the environmentalists don't take over and restrict access to chemicals. But, I see this already taking place. People have fear of chemicals the same way they fear guns. Both are safe or dangerous depending on the person and the intent.
PE
By the way, a number of responses to my post in this thread seems to suggest that my post is somehow in opposition to film--as the post itself said, my sentiments are the opposite. I just don't see the future for 35mm film any more than there was for 8-track tapes. Can they be purchased anymore? I don't think so, even though they sounded great.
By the way, a number of responses to my post in this thread seems to suggest that my post is somehow in opposition to film--as the post itself said, my sentiments are the opposite. I just don't see the future for 35mm film any more than there was for 8-track tapes. Can they be purchased anymore? I don't think so, even though they sounded great.
As stated in my original post, I'm a dual format returnee too, though I can't claim to be a particularly accomplished one. I've never used anything but film for hobby work, as I see no advantage to digital below the level of a MF back, which I can't afford. And I've returned to film for point-and-shoot.
By the way, speaking of MF digital backs, my understanding from Luminous Landscape and other sources is that MF backs mostly solve the problem of digital look, from clipping, because the dynamic range is wide enough to expose for the highlights and still have detail in the shadows; the digital look from the linear character of the sensor is solved in processing, leaving clipping the main contributor to the look as I understand things (which may be imperfectly). There is the question of tone as well, I know, and ink-jet versus wet printing, but there too, the differences are not huge from what I've seen and read. Don't get me wrong, it still costs $30,000 in digital to replace a $1,500 film setup, but I'd bet if twenty-times the cost were not an issue, most (not all, of course) would turn to the MF back: a 6x4.5 sensor gives greater depth-of-field options than 4x5 film; autofocus on a high-end digital camera seems a nice option; and there is the option to work much faster, always an issue (at least for me) with light always changing.
I have noticed recently that fewer LF enlargers are being sold second hand, the clear out of professional labs is slowing down rapidly most redundant equipment has been sold or scrapped, & unfortunately mostly scrapped.
This is sort of happening in the Japanese market, I think. As far as the second hand equipment goes, for hobbists selling and buying from online auctions, Yahoo Japan auction was a good place until recently, but now there's hardly any good stuff appearing there....
So, for the new comers, now the used market is becoming a junk yard and the price range for the new stuff is ridiculous...
In the early days Ilford were the more technically advanced of the two companies, and it's fair tom say Kodak always lagged behind them in terms of B&W materials until Tmax films. Kodak papers never matched Ilford's in terms of any quality....
I'm not sure of your figures either regarding technical expertise.
But lets agree to disagree.
PE
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