My partner (an author and artist, who can also operate a camera at need) raised a question for which I don't have a handy answer: how can street photographers sell their images?
The general rule, both legally and ethically, as I understand it, is that except for photojournalism one needs a model release to sell recognizable images of people
I feel like this subject has been covered (ad nauseam) here already...and I think the premise underlying the question is false.
A model release is required to use someone's image for commercial (advertising) purposes. Selling photographs as art does not fall under the definition of commercial use. For the same reason, you can sell photos of trademarked items without violating the trademark, e.g. you can take a photo of your car and sell a print to someone to hang on their wall without being sued by the car manufacturer.
The ethical side of the question has to be evaluated by the individual photographer.
Thanks. One of these is an actual answer to the question; the other took as much time as answering the question to avoid doing so.
I feel like this subject has been covered (ad nauseam) here already...and I think the premise underlying the question is false.
A bit OT, but there is always the case of Richard Prince (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Prince) who openly appropriates the work of other photographers, unchanged and sells it as his art, and it fetches astronomical prices.
Stealing ideas is one thing, stealing the work of others outright is another--I would think it would plagiarism, except Mr. Prince does not claim that he created the photo. According to him, by appropriating them they become his art. I posted because on the periphery of this discussion topic is the ethical argument about using someone's likeness without their permission. Not that I think that is a bad thing.Hi Pieter12:
Stealing other people's ideas and art is as old as art itself. Sorry to ask but what does appropriation have to do with street photography? Are people who search for and steal people's "tripod holes" appropriating images too ? ( Ecclesiastes 1:9 and all that )
the conundrum is that if a photograph is made even as art, and it is sold it crosses over to the realm of commerce ( $ changes hands) ...
Stealing ideas? It makes me wonder if photographing a building or monument and selling is any different? I'm well aware of his Marlboro Man and Sherri Levine's various appropriations, I'm still not really sure the point. Steglitz and Steichen "appropriated" the Flatiron Building as far as I am concerned, Duchamps appropriated his readymades, worhol the images off of TV, newspapers and soup cans, nothing is really sacred. Aren't people stealing Ansel Adam's tripod holes stealing his ideas ?Stealing ideas is one thing, stealing the work of others outright is another--I would think it would plagiarism, except Mr. Prince does not claim that he created the photo. According to him, by appropriating them they become his art. I posted because on the periphery of this discussion topic is the ethical argument about using someone's likeness without their permission. Not that I think that is a bad thing.
Hi DonJ"Commerce" and the legal definition of "commercial use" are not the same. There is no conundrum.
That is why one cannot use photos (for commercial purposes) of, for example, the Chrysler Building or the Eiffel Tower when lit at night.It makes me wonder if photographing a building or monument and selling is any different?
Let me ask you a question.Thanks. One of these is an actual answer to the question; the other took as much time as answering the question to avoid doing so.
Actually, "As I understand it." can be taken the other way, also. Perhaps it is a regional thing...or changes in context.
The ethical questions do arise..."mining" the homeless community for images to get that solid sell-able portfolio, for example. Someone mentioned that the ethical decision is up to the individual, and it is...until one puts the images out for public view, then the ethics of the community weigh in...one way or another.
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