How badly did I screw up?

[pbromaghin]

It was nice to get back to processing film last night after a few months off. It was magic again to open the canister and see that there's actually pictures in there!

BUT, I made a mistake. Processing 2 35mm rolls of Tmax 400, followed fixing with 4and1 hypo remover at recommended strength for the recommended time, followed directly by photo-flo. This morning as I was rinsing off in the shower realized I forgot to rinse the film!

How bad is this? What will happen to the film? Do I need to reload the reels and put them through a complete rinse cycle and finish with photo-flo?

Thanks in advance.

 

[removed account4]

not sure what happened to your film
but wash them and your tank very well
and do the photoflo thing ... hopefully you
will be OK ...

 

[Rick A]

Simply rewash the film then foto-flo as before.

 

[tkamiya]

I would soak the film in water for 30 minutes to soften up dried up "stuff" first, then to stop bath, then complete wash, then to HCA, then to photoflo.

The purpose of stop bath is to dissolve dried up chemicals. It worked for me when I did something like that.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I would soak the film in water for 30 minutes to soften up dried up "stuff" first, then to stop bath, then complete wash, then to HCA, then to photoflo.

The purpose of stop bath is to dissolve dried up chemicals. It worked for me when I did something like that.

Don't forget to wash after the HCA (Hypo Clearing Agent). Remember to toss the wetting agent you used as it will be contaminated with fixer/HCA.

It should be OK to wash the film with a slight duration after fixing. I remember Ralph Lambrecht stating it would be OK to do this.

 

[pbromaghin]

Wow, 19 minutes since posting.

Thanks all of you.

If I do give it another go through stop, should I dilute it a bit, since it is being used more as a strong vinegar cleaning solution than as a stop bath? Also, I would think the stop should be dumped and not put back for re-use due to possible contamination with fixer and remover.

Edit to add - Oops, 28 minutes.

 

[pbromaghin]

Yes, I normally do a quick tap water rinse between fix and HCA, then the major rinse with tap water before wetting. I always dump the wetting agent. The tap water is from a jug that is kept along with mixed chemicals at room temp. All chemicals are mixed with distilled water.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

No need to use stop bath again.

Just soak the film in water for a bit, then go through a normal washing sequence, but you may wish to prolong the washing prior to HCA to what would be a normal wash cycle without HCA, just to insure that any fixer that's dried in the film is dissolved and washed out properly.

Wow, 19 minutes since posting.

Thanks all of you.

If I do give it another go through stop, should I dilute it a bit, since it is being used more as a strong vinegar cleaning solution than as a stop bath? Also, I would think the stop should be dumped and not put back for re-use due to possible contamination with fixer and remover.

Edit to add - Oops, 28 minutes.

 

[Existing Light]

"How Badly did I Screw Up?"

been my motto lately.


Just rewash and be happy you got some images

 

[tkamiya]

Thoams,

Thanks for catching that. I put washing step in a wrong place. If crusty dried up chemicals does not come off after washing, DO NOT RUB the film. Soak it in stop bath.... (that's what I was trying to say) It'll help dissolve it. Worked for me when I did something like this - not that I'm going to admit publically....

 

[Roger Cole]

No need to use stop bath again.

Just soak the film in water for a bit, then go through a normal washing sequence, but you may wish to prolong the washing prior to HCA to what would be a normal wash cycle without HCA, just to insure that any fixer that's dried in the film is dissolved and washed out properly.

+1. This is a non-problem. Just do what Thomas said.

The purpose of stop bath is to evenly and more or less instantly terminate development, and to a lesser extent to preserve your fixer by neutralizing the (usually) alkaline ph of the developer and carrying over instead the mild acid of the stop bath to the (usually) acidic environment of the fixer. There are alkaline fixers though, and you don't really ever NEED to use stop bath at all for film. Some people think it produces pinholes, though I've never seen this. A plain water rinse between developer and fixer is fine too. I use plain water instead of stop bath with Diafine as recommended by the developer manufacturer, and I think those who use pyro avoid it as well.

 

[pbromaghin]

Well, it's all cleaned up now. Rinsed it well and hit it with Photo-flo.

Thanks to all of you for your kind help.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Well, it's all cleaned up now. Rinsed it well and hit it with Photo-flo.

Thanks to all of you for your kind help.

Is OK. Just don't let it happen again.