Máx Arnold
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An Update:
Today I went to the pharmacy and got some effervescent vitamin C tablets.
I had left some RudeRodinal (That's how I like to call it) on the tray for about one week, and it had turned brown like coca cola. I tested it with a heavily fogged paper strip and a faint grey developed out. Just for the record.
I made another batch of RudeRodinal after dumping the one that I had, but I added one tablet of vitamin C.
(Bear in mind that this is for paper, not film. It certainly is too harsh for film and I can't assure nor test times nor temperatures for any kind of film.)
Rude Rodinal recipe:
- Acetaminophen tablets equivalent for 2.5g of acetaminophen (Ex. 2 and 1/2 1g tablets)
- 15.7 g Lye pellets (Like in solid alkaline drain cleaner)
Add the tablets first to 50ml room temperature tap water, stir until they start to disintegrate.
Add the soda. Stir well. Wait 15 minutes for the hydrolyzation of acetaminophen to p-aminophenol to start. Leave it on a bottle with stopper on the window during that time. it'll turn red. don't worry. it's perfectly fine. it's so that you know the reaction happened.
Passed that time, add 1 tablet of 2g (2000mg, 2x 1000mg, 4x 500mg or the equivalent of 2g ascorbic acid.) to the above solution. Let the tablet disintegrate stirring constantly. (I cap the bottle and shake it vigorously pointing to open space. It's a strong lye solution, don't point to eyes, animals or other people)
Once the vitamin c is added the red colour will disappear, I think meaning the p-aminophenol has been "protected" by the now sodium ascorbate.
I didn't dilute it to have this results:
Notice that I'm exposing 4x4 cm pieces of paper, so 50ml of developer is enough for submerging the tiny negative and developing correctly. I might need to scale tthe formula for making more developer, but I'm currently testing how much this would last, so I'm not going to do that.
What I'm impressed by is the great density I'm getting in the exposed areas and the awesome contrast.
(I've watched the Borut Peterlin's video on paper negatives on YouTube, and he said this is too contrasty for a negative, but since I'm printing using the cyanotype process, dense negatives are a must.)
I'm very thankful for the help received in this forum. Long life PHOTRIO & APUG! (To which one I arrived late)
Max.
Today I went to the pharmacy and got some effervescent vitamin C tablets.
I had left some RudeRodinal (That's how I like to call it) on the tray for about one week, and it had turned brown like coca cola. I tested it with a heavily fogged paper strip and a faint grey developed out. Just for the record.
I made another batch of RudeRodinal after dumping the one that I had, but I added one tablet of vitamin C.
(Bear in mind that this is for paper, not film. It certainly is too harsh for film and I can't assure nor test times nor temperatures for any kind of film.)
Rude Rodinal recipe:
- Acetaminophen tablets equivalent for 2.5g of acetaminophen (Ex. 2 and 1/2 1g tablets)
- 15.7 g Lye pellets (Like in solid alkaline drain cleaner)
Add the tablets first to 50ml room temperature tap water, stir until they start to disintegrate.
Add the soda. Stir well. Wait 15 minutes for the hydrolyzation of acetaminophen to p-aminophenol to start. Leave it on a bottle with stopper on the window during that time. it'll turn red. don't worry. it's perfectly fine. it's so that you know the reaction happened.
Passed that time, add 1 tablet of 2g (2000mg, 2x 1000mg, 4x 500mg or the equivalent of 2g ascorbic acid.) to the above solution. Let the tablet disintegrate stirring constantly. (I cap the bottle and shake it vigorously pointing to open space. It's a strong lye solution, don't point to eyes, animals or other people)
Once the vitamin c is added the red colour will disappear, I think meaning the p-aminophenol has been "protected" by the now sodium ascorbate.
I didn't dilute it to have this results:

Notice that I'm exposing 4x4 cm pieces of paper, so 50ml of developer is enough for submerging the tiny negative and developing correctly. I might need to scale tthe formula for making more developer, but I'm currently testing how much this would last, so I'm not going to do that.
What I'm impressed by is the great density I'm getting in the exposed areas and the awesome contrast.
(I've watched the Borut Peterlin's video on paper negatives on YouTube, and he said this is too contrasty for a negative, but since I'm printing using the cyanotype process, dense negatives are a must.)
I'm very thankful for the help received in this forum. Long life PHOTRIO & APUG! (To which one I arrived late)
Max.