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Apparently Holga Hoarding madness is in full effect. Prices are already ridiculous....
 
hoffy said:
Which has just hardened my resolve not to bother with one.
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I had two original 120s models. I know I sold one, but I thought I had kept the other. I can't seem to find it right now, so its either lost in the abyss of my junk room, or I sold it and dont remember.

In any event, I have the 120s box for one of them. Since I can't find my camera, I just bought a 120s with strap, mask, and lens cap on etsy for $30.

I enjoy the Holga and if I can't find my old one, at least I'll have this one.

But its still crazy to see the prices some of these people are trying to sell theirs for.
 
Well, it's not a Holga but kind of the same idea. I see B&H has the Diana now for $40 with free shipping and it has a removeable lens with several lenses you can buy if that is your thing. It also shoots either 12- 52X52mm or 16- 42X42mm negs. I have no much interest in these type of cameras but for those in mourning over the demise of the Holga this is just a heads up.
 
I have an old Brownie Hawkeye. It is better than a Holga, still in good shape after 60+ years. :smile:
 
No light leaks
No fogging
Better optics
It is less expensive

Just for starters. Just because a Holga was made more recently, does not in itself make it a better product.
 
Sirius Glass said:
No light leaks
No fogging
Better optics
It is less expensive
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All of which really have nothing to do with being "better", if the light leaks, fogging, and optics of the Holga better suit the images one wants to make. Absolute claims like "better" are easily refuted.
As for price (with the exception of my Holga Pano) I've never spent more than $5.00 on a Holga or Diana.
 
mhcfires said:
I have an old Brownie Hawkeye. It is better than a Holga, still in good shape after 60+ years. :smile:
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I have three of those myself. One has a flipped lens.
 
I am somewhat amused to see how many members come to the Lo-Fi camera thread to bash the nature of these cameras. If you don't like the essence of these beasts in whatever incarnation they happen to present, then maybe don't comment in the Lo-Fi threads.... Unless of course you need to do that because your bored and not making images
 
eddie said:
All of which really have nothing to do with being "better", if the light leaks, fogging, and optics of the Holga better suit the images one wants to make. Absolute claims like "better" are easily refuted.
As for price (with the exception of my Holga Pano) I've never spent more than $5.00 on a Holga or Diana.
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"rockpowered
I am somewhat amused to see how many members come to the Lo-Fi camera thread to bash the nature of these cameras. If you don't like the essence of these beasts in whatever incarnation they happen to present, then maybe don't comment in the Lo-Fi threads.... Unless of course you need to do that because your bored and not making images"

Agree with eddies post and was wondering about the thing as rockpowered in his post. That a card carrying member of the Hassies and Zeiss are the best club isn't to happy with the results from a Holga is understandable, that he needs to voice his dislike in the Toy Camera forum on the other hand is less understandable.

As for the 5€ Holga and Diana where did you get them I am envious.
 
I bought my Diana's in the 1970's. Discount stores sold them, new in box for $1.00. Last year, a friend who knows I like lo-fi cameras found a few Diana's, a Holga, and a Lubitel2 for a total of $10.00.
 
ChristopherCoy said:
Apparently Holga Hoarding madness is in full effect. Prices are already ridiculous....
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The madness will cool off, I bet.

Everyone who is willing to pay ridiculous prices for original Holgas will have already bought their stashes in a while.

Then, those who continue to ask ridiculous prices will, after re-listing 10-12 times on the bay will realize that there are no more crazies left willing to pay that price, and things will come down.

There were a lot of Holgas made.

How many? The factory was open for decades. More than a million, I'd wager. Is that safe to say? But certainly no more than 100 million. Possibly a few million is my guess, over many decades. A lot of those are lying around in boxes, and will start showing up in estate sales, tag sales, etc when whoever discovers them realizes they are worth more than $10, and then dump them onto the internet.
 
But spreading of these cameras is different between countries. (see post #104)
 
I've had my 120S for about 20 years now. I just ran a roll of TMY-2 through. No matter how much black tape I wrap around it, she still leaks. The images are mushy. The shutter is clunky. I sometimes still forget to take the lens cap off. The images are always a surprise. I love it.
 
Given that they are a bread and butter model for the marketing bods at Lomographische AG, I imagine that if the factory actually has stopped production, they will try and buy the rights to the name/design, and get a mainland / PRC factory to continue production. They have already commissioned a slew of custom models, so they have a sizable interest in keeping a production line going. Failing that, I imagine they'll get a clone out the door pretty quickly.
 
I read somewhere that the factory threw out all the machines that make them, so I'm not sure it would even be possible for them to start up again.
 
Welcome to APUG
 
This wasn't Kodachrome. Molded plastic is easy and the design is trivial. It could easily come back. Personally I think we're being set up for a great marketing gimmick.
 
The demise of that production is a bit enigmatic. As you said starting production again is trivial, but nevertheless making new tools is costly (in case they got scrapped).
 
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