Help! Nikon LS8000 scanner software won't install on Win 10

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I tend to just use different drives for each OS and change the default boot order in the bios on startup.

Avoids problems with boot loaders.
 
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I tend to just use different drives for each OS and change the default boot order in the bios on startup.

Avoids problems with boot loaders.
I think that's what I'd do too. That said, I might just take my old Lenovo ThinkPad T61p 6457 and slip and old copy of Win7 on it, which I still have the key for. It's also running Win10 at the moment. It's not the latest and greatest, but it's always been pretty darn fast and a good work horse. I have a 256GB SSD in it, but the only drawback is the 4GB of RAM max. It still should work fine as a designated scanner laptop. I'm going to first try Vuescan before I mess with the T61. I'll let you know how it goes for me as to whether or not I get along with Vuescan or not. JohnW
 

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Vuescan will have vuescan all over any scanned image or document saved, only the preview window will be free of the watermarks.
I have Vuescan but do not like it. The adjustments are totally different and difficult to work with. Vuescan basically gives you a good general scan and nothing more.
If you reinstall the OS that the Lenovo shipped with it may already be activated, if not then you will have to call Microsoft to activate the Win 7 installation. If not activated in the allocated time frame many features of the OS will be deactivated giving a black desktop screen with the icons. The installed programs should work.

My M3800 only has a m sata slot which I installed a m sata HD in for the Win 7 installation.
 

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I'm moving my PC, printers and scanners up to my cottage and am in the process of getting things up and running. Well, trying to anyway???? I'm trying to install Nikon Scan 4.0.3 onto my PC that's running Windows 10 Home version. I've been trying using a YouTube video and can get as far as the download started when an X box comes up saying, " The installed version could not be determined. The setup will now terminate." I've tried turning virus and security off, but no help. Anyone have advice?? JohnW
P.S. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box on the tech stuff.

Hi John, I have an 8000ED too and mine runs perfectly on Win10 64 under both Vuescan and NikonScan. For Nikonscan, I have followed the following tutorial

https://lincolnscan.co.uk/Using NikonScan.html

I was up and running in 10 minutes. Nikonscan by the way is fantastic with colour negatives and slide film, whereas I prefer Vuescan for black and white negatives.
 
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Hi John, I have an 8000ED too and mine runs perfectly on Win10 64 under both Vuescan and NikonScan. For Nikonscan, I have followed the following tutorial

https://lincolnscan.co.uk/Using NikonScan.html

I was up and running in 10 minutes. Nikonscan by the way is fantastic with colour negatives and slide film, whereas I prefer Vuescan for black and white negatives.
That's a pretty easy walk through. The YouTube video is much the same. My problem is when I get to the download link and click on the "accept agreement and download now" tab it won't even start the download at all. JohnW
 
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Well, curiosity got the best of me last night and I decided to try something different. I dug out my old Lenovo ThinkPad T61 last night and since it's running the same Win10 version as my desktop I tried the Nikon Scan download on that. No problem at all. That was even after Win updated on the ThinkPad. I was going to just use the T61 ThinkPad for my scanning PC since it has a Firewire port and my Nikon 8000 ED is Firewire only. Unfortunately they are two different style ports. The Nikon has two ends that are large, half oval and 6pin while the ThinkPad has the smaller square port with what looks like 4pins. Looks like I'm back to trying Vuescan on my desktop or figuring out why my desktop won't let me even start the download. This thing is trying to drive me nutty. JohnW
 

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Try another browser; I find that sometimes active links do not work on Firefox, but do work on Chrome or Edge.
 

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I remember my dad telling me never to toss out your old computers as you never know when you might need it. so for 15+ years I kept an old XP machine sitting in the corner of my closet. low and behold a flextight III scanner came available for next to nothing. so dusted off the old machine, stole a SCSI card and cable from his collection and was up and running in 30 minutes. I keep my win 7 machine "unplugged" from the internet to run my CS 9000 and photoshop CS5. forget subscription software, even though thru work I get free use of all adobe software. yeh they are a little slow, but having a dedicated computer for a dedicated use does take up a lot of space! but I do like having a dedicated CPU for photo work only. keeps the daily use machine running fast.

Vuescan is great for getting drivers for older scanners. thanks to Ed, many old scanners can be used even if you do not have the original software cd or dont have a cd/dvd/bd drive as a lot of new machines dont have. now if we could get ed to support flextight scanners, I would be very happy

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Try another browser; I find that sometimes active links do not work on Firefox, but do work on Chrome or Edge.
I’ve tried Edge, FireFox and Chrome, but none worked. I’m going to still keep trying, but this is getting to be a little time consuming. Better than sitting in front of the TV. At least my brain is getting a workout. JohnW
 

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I’ve tried Edge, FireFox and Chrome, but none worked. I’m going to still keep trying, but this is getting to be a little time consuming. Better than sitting in front of the TV. At least my brain is getting a workout. JohnW
One more suggestion; briefly turn off your antivirus software to see if it is blocking your download.
 
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One more suggestion; briefly turn off your antivirus software to see if it is blocking your download.
I already tried that also, but no luck. I’m away at the moment, but will dive back into this problem when I get back to the cottage. JohnW
 

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I'm confused where you're getting hung up. I looked at the LincolnScan site and had no problem downloading the zip file for Win 64 bit drivers. I put it on my google drive for you if its what you need. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xnjTle8daubMRGKu9vwQPzky2cO1GVaw/view?usp=sharing
I'm running firefox and its my default browser.

Workaround: Click Start, select Power, press and hold the Shift key then click Restart. Windows will reboot to the advanced startup options screen.

Verify that your OS is not corrupted:
Right click the start button, select Windows Power Shell Administrator, the command prompt window opens (say yes to the user access control) then when C:\WINDOWS\system32> appears type or copy paste
sfc /scannow
System file checker will (or should if typed correctly) start and check/ repair any corrupt system operating files. Run as many times as necessary to get Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-365e0031-36b1-6031-f804-8fd86e0ef4ca
Powershell/command prompt can be opned and the commands run with your browser open and online.
Run the DISM command listed. Howtogeek.com says to run the sfc first. I have run sfc followed by dism and dism followed by sfc will no ill affects.
 
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I went back to using Windows XP computer just to run the Nikon LS8000 scanner, There were people doing new builds on ebay of xp computers just for this reason no modern drivers. Think I paid less then $300 for a essentially a new xp computer. Works great.
 

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Vuescan will have vuescan all over any scanned image or document saved, only the preview window will be free of the watermarks.
I have Vuescan but do not like it. The adjustments are totally different and difficult to work with. Vuescan basically gives you a good general scan and nothing more.

The Vuescan watermarks are from the demo version. If you pay for the license and register it's supposed to not impose the watermarks. The demo is a useful feature since one can verify it works with one's scanner/computer/OS before buying it.

Well, curiosity got the best of me last night and I decided to try something different. I dug out my old Lenovo ThinkPad T61 last night and since it's running the same Win10 version as my desktop I tried the Nikon Scan download on that. No problem at all. That was even after Win updated on the ThinkPad. I was going to just use the T61 ThinkPad for my scanning PC since it has a Firewire port and my Nikon 8000 ED is Firewire only. Unfortunately they are two different style ports. The Nikon has two ends that are large, half oval and 6pin while the ThinkPad has the smaller square port with what looks like 4pins. Looks like I'm back to trying Vuescan on my desktop or figuring out why my desktop won't let me even start the download. This thing is trying to drive me nutty. JohnW

The LS-8000 ED has a Firewire 400 6-pin connector. The Thinkpad T61 has a 4-pin Firewire connector, I think it's probably Firewire 400. (Even if it were 800, it would be backward compatible.) You just need the right cable to make that combo work. You can get that in many places, for example assuming these are the right size connectors, B&H sells one for $3. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/688554-REG/Pearstone_FW_4603_FireWire_4_Pin_to_6_Pin.html
 

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I'm moving my PC, printers and scanners up to my cottage and am in the process of getting things up and running. Well, trying to anyway???? I'm trying to install Nikon Scan 4.0.3 onto my PC that's running Windows 10 Home version. I've been trying using a YouTube video and can get as far as the download started when an X box comes up saying, " The installed version could not be determined. The setup will now terminate." I've tried turning virus and security off, but no help. Anyone have advice?? JohnW
P.S. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box on the tech stuff.

Nikon web site says nothing about any O/S support apart from this... https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/ni/NI_article?articleNo=000042533&lang=en_US
"Nikon film scanners were manufactured from 1988 to 2004. Nikon Scan is Nikon's own proprietary software for film scanners but it only supported computer operating systems up until scanner development stopped."


"Supported models
  • COOLSCAN IV LS-40 ED
  • COOLSCAN V LS-50 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-4000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-5000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-8000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-9000 ED

Nikon Scan v4.0.3 - Updater
  • Vista (32 bit version only)
Nikon Scan v4.0.2 - Updater
  • Windows 98 Second Edition
  • Windows Me
  • Windows 2000 Professional
  • Windows XP Professional
  • Windows XP Home Edition"
There are mentions of using Win7 64-bit with the software.

In 2016 someone posted:
"The following link will provide you with a patch and instruction that will allow Win7, Win8, to use your scanner with the last s/w that Nikon released for it (Vista 32 bit). I have been using mine for the past 4 yrs and everything works smoooooooothly.
http://axelriet.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&max-results=4 "

And then in 2020 someone else posted:
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Hi Coolscan V ED ownners,

Nikon Coolscan V (and other derivatives) is not dead yet. I came across this YouTube video:



It works with Windows 10, advised to read carefully instructions in video description,

specialy "PRESS F7".

Cheers and happy scaning."​
 
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Nikon web site says nothing about any O/S support apart from this... https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/ni/NI_article?articleNo=000042533&lang=en_US
"Nikon film scanners were manufactured from 1988 to 2004. Nikon Scan is Nikon's own proprietary software for film scanners but it only supported computer operating systems up until scanner development stopped."


"Supported models
  • COOLSCAN IV LS-40 ED
  • COOLSCAN V LS-50 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-4000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-5000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-8000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-9000 ED

Nikon Scan v4.0.3 - Updater
  • Vista (32 bit version only)
Nikon Scan v4.0.2 - Updater
  • Windows 98 Second Edition
  • Windows Me
  • Windows 2000 Professional
  • Windows XP Professional
  • Windows XP Home Edition"
There are mentions of using Win7 64-bit with the software.

In 2016 someone posted:
"The following link will provide you with a patch and instruction that will allow Win7, Win8, to use your scanner with the last s/w that Nikon released for it (Vista 32 bit). I have been using mine for the past 4 yrs and everything works smoooooooothly.
http://axelriet.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&max-results=4 "

And then in 2020 someone else posted:
"
Hi Coolscan V ED ownners,

Nikon Coolscan V (and other derivatives) is not dead yet. I came across this YouTube video:



It works with Windows 10, advised to read carefully instructions in video description,

specialy "PRESS F7".

Cheers and happy scaning."​

I just got back to the cottage and will try all of the above tips later in the day. I'll keep you informed as to what happens. JohnW
 
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Nikon web site says nothing about any O/S support apart from this... https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/ni/NI_article?articleNo=000042533&lang=en_US
"Nikon film scanners were manufactured from 1988 to 2004. Nikon Scan is Nikon's own proprietary software for film scanners but it only supported computer operating systems up until scanner development stopped."


"Supported models
  • COOLSCAN IV LS-40 ED
  • COOLSCAN V LS-50 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-4000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-5000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-8000 ED
  • Super COOLSCAN LS-9000 ED

Nikon Scan v4.0.3 - Updater
  • Vista (32 bit version only)
Nikon Scan v4.0.2 - Updater
  • Windows 98 Second Edition
  • Windows Me
  • Windows 2000 Professional
  • Windows XP Professional
  • Windows XP Home Edition"
There are mentions of using Win7 64-bit with the software.

In 2016 someone posted:
"The following link will provide you with a patch and instruction that will allow Win7, Win8, to use your scanner with the last s/w that Nikon released for it (Vista 32 bit). I have been using mine for the past 4 yrs and everything works smoooooooothly.
http://axelriet.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00:00:00+01:00&max-results=4 "

And then in 2020 someone else posted:
"
Hi Coolscan V ED ownners,

Nikon Coolscan V (and other derivatives) is not dead yet. I came across this YouTube video:



It works with Windows 10, advised to read carefully instructions in video description,

specialy "PRESS F7".

Cheers and happy scaning."​

That is the exact video I have been following to the letter. It worked on the old ThinkPad T61 just fine, but every time I try it on the Dell desktop nothing happens when I click on "I agree - begin download". Something, somewhere is preventing me from doing this download. I don't seem to have problems with other downloads? I'll be using Vuescan shortly, but in the meantime this is driving me nutty. JohnW
 
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The Vuescan watermarks are from the demo version. If you pay for the license and register it's supposed to not impose the watermarks. The demo is a useful feature since one can verify it works with one's scanner/computer/OS before buying it.



The LS-8000 ED has a Firewire 400 6-pin connector. The Thinkpad T61 has a 4-pin Firewire connector, I think it's probably Firewire 400. (Even if it were 800, it would be backward compatible.) You just need the right cable to make that combo work. You can get that in many places, for example assuming these are the right size connectors, B&H sells one for $3. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/688554-REG/Pearstone_FW_4603_FireWire_4_Pin_to_6_Pin.html
I hope one of these cables will work because I'm going to order one. If it works I'll at least have a backup laptop for the 8000 ED. JohnW
 

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That is the exact video I have been following to the letter. It worked on the old ThinkPad T61 just fine, but every time I try it on the Dell desktop nothing happens when I click on "I agree - begin download". Something, somewhere is preventing me from doing this download. I don't seem to have problems with other downloads? I'll be using Vuescan shortly, but in the meantime this is driving me nutty. JohnW
Hve you shut off any antivirus software that is installed on the machine?
And/or install a different browser only for the purposes of downloading and installing the application which is failing installation.

I once ran into a problem with a Canon printer, and only the complete removable of an antivirus software (and refund of purchase price) got rid of the problem sending print tasks to that printer!
 

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I bought/paid-for Vuescan years ago for an XP machine, it worked without a hitch up til and including today's Win10 machine. That includes Vuescan's version of ICE. I'm sure it'll be fine with Win 11 some day.

IMO everything else makes trouble.
 

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I'm afraid I've forgotten what NikonScan on the Mac even looked like! I did make a virtual machine in Parallels to run it, but discovered that VMs don't recognise Firewire ports. So my LS9000ED has run with VueScan since NikonScan died with macOS 10.7 in 2010. We get on OK, and while VueScan is a little awkward in the interface, it produces results as good as any once you figure it out.
 
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I'm confused where you're getting hung up. I looked at the LincolnScan site and had no problem downloading the zip file for Win 64 bit drivers. I put it on my google drive for you if its what you need. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xnjTle8daubMRGKu9vwQPzky2cO1GVaw/view?usp=sharing
I'm running firefox and its my default browser.

Workaround: Click Start, select Power, press and hold the Shift key then click Restart. Windows will reboot to the advanced startup options screen.

Verify that your OS is not corrupted:
Right click the start button, select Windows Power Shell Administrator, the command prompt window opens (say yes to the user access control) then when C:\WINDOWS\system32> appears type or copy paste
sfc /scannow
System file checker will (or should if typed correctly) start and check/ repair any corrupt system operating files. Run as many times as necessary to get Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-365e0031-36b1-6031-f804-8fd86e0ef4ca
Powershell/command prompt can be opned and the commands run with your browser open and online.
Run the DISM command listed. Howtogeek.com says to run the sfc first. I have run sfc followed by dism and dism followed by sfc will no ill affects.
I did find some corrupt files. I did get Nikon Scan4 to finally download, but in order to do so I had to hold down the shift key and click download. It's downloaded, but I can't get the program to find the scanner. When I try to find the drivers I'm having no luck. I have to go home for a few days so I'm going to research this some more and maybe I can figure out where the bottleneck is for when I make it back to the cottage. JohnW
 
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