Help ID this film please

[Dan Quan]

I found this in a Kodak Brownie Target 620 and would like to process it. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

 

[heespharm]

620 is the same size as 120 so just develop in normal 120 reel ... I'd try Diafine or rodinal 1:100 stand development

And keep the 620 spool!!!! You'll either need it someday or I may wanna buy it off you!!!


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[Dan Quan]

620 is the same size as 120 so just develop in normal 120 reel ... I'd try Diafine or rodinal 1:100 stand development

And keep the 620 spool!!!! You'll either need it someday or I may wanna buy it off you!!!


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Thanks for the response. I should have mentioned that I have DDX on hand. As for the spool, I will make sure I hang onto it for the time being. I guess they are hard to come by?

 

[heespharm]

Thanks for the response. I should have mentioned that I have DDX on hand. As for the spool, I will make sure I hang onto it for the time being. I guess they are hard to come by?

Well not common... They can be found but who wants to pay for something that they threw away...

Plus you can roll 120 film on it tightly and use that brownie again


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[Dan Quan]

Well not common... They can be found but who wants to pay for something that they threw away...

Plus you can roll 120 film on it tightly and use that brownie again


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Hmmm, the new old LOMO.

Strike that. Reverse it!

 

[gorbas]

After you roll this film to processing tank maybe you will see more info about film emulsion you re dealing with from beginning of the film paper backing?? Most likely it's Verichrome but who knows??

 

[DWThomas]

gorbas makes a good point, a number of films have different colors and printing at the beginning of the backing paper. Last I looked, 620 spools weren't that difficult to find -- on ePrey, for example. It's just they cost as much as a 120 spool with new, in-date film on it! (I acquired a couple to use with my Brownie Target Six-20.)

 

[Jojje]

There's clearly marking "B&W" on the tape.

 

[Dan Quan]

After you roll this film to processing tank maybe you will see more info about film emulsion you re dealing with from beginning of the film paper backing?? Most likely it's Verichrome but who knows??

Excellent. I will look for that info.

gorbas makes a good point, a number of films have different colors and printing at the beginning of the backing paper. Last I looked, 620 spools weren't that difficult to find -- on ePrey, for example. It's just they cost as much as a 120 spool with new, in-date film on it! (I acquired a couple to use with my Brownie Target Six-20.)

So far I am planning on shooting 120, but I will keep a few 620 on hand in case I need them.

There's clearly marking "B&W" on the tape.

Yeah, I saw that when I pulled this from the camera. I guess I should have put this in B&W Processing and not here. I suppose I will check the paper for more info and then consult the Massive Dev Chart for a film DDX correlation. If there is none I will decide on an alternate course of action.

 

[macfred]

This fits the topic perfectly : The rescued film project http://vimeo.com/116735360

 

[bdial]

It doesn't look like any Kodak roll I've ever encountered. It's perhaps more likely to be Dupont (or…?), and probably medium speed. Times for Plus-X or FP4 would probably work, or if you want to be thorough and are willing to sacrifice a frame or two, do a clip test.

 

[anfenglin]

Or you use Caffenol-C-H, that doesn't care what film it is, you always get a useable image. The recipe is really simple, the cheapest, strongest instant coffee you can find, vitamin c power, washing soda and, if you can get some, KBr, that helps with keeping the fog down.

 

[removed account4]

get some dektol ..
and either dilute it 1:7 and process the film in there for 7-8 mins
agitate 1 min then 10 second every min after
or 4 mins ( same agitation cycle )
pour it out, and constant agitation in caffenol ( the teaspoon recipe and add 20cc of straight dektol into )
for 4 mins....

i have been processing all my film this way ( i originally did this with ansco130 but use dektol now ... maybe 100 sheets/rolls of film )
and it comes out fine ...

good luck !
john

 

[Dan Quan]

This fits the topic perfectly : The rescued film project http://vimeo.com/116735360

Thanks. I had seen this video before, but I have to say this time I felt a personal connection.

Or you use Caffenol-C-H, that doesn't care what film it is, you always get a useable image. The recipe is really simple, the cheapest, strongest instant coffee you can find, vitamin c power, washing soda and, if you can get some, KBr, that helps with keeping the fog down.

My budget is tight right now and I'd like to use what I have on hand.

It doesn't look like any Kodak roll I've ever encountered. It's perhaps more likely to be Dupont (or…?), and probably medium speed. Times for Plus-X or FP4 would probably work, or if you want to be thorough and are willing to sacrifice a frame or two, do a clip test.

I really do not want to risk losing a great image with a clip test. I would rather gamble on getting all acceptably scannable images than losing the one really great image to a slice.

get some dektol ..
and either dilute it 1:7 and process the film in there for 7-8 mins
agitate 1 min then 10 second every min after
or 4 mins ( same agitation cycle )
pour it out, and constant agitation in caffenol ( the teaspoon recipe and add 20cc of straight dektol into )
for 4 mins....

i have been processing all my film this way ( i originally did this with ansco130 but use dektol now ... maybe 100 sheets/rolls of film )
and it comes out fine ...

good luck !
john

Yeah, DDX is what I have so...

 

[removed account4]

snipped the good stuff

Yeah, DDX is what I have so...

no way i can help you there dan
never used that particular elixir of the gods


if the film doesn't mean much, you could always
brew a strong pot of caffenol ..
and put 40-60cc of ddx in it
develop it as i suggested but substitute
using ddx for dektol, for 6 mins and do 6mins in the caffenol ...

the caffenol allows the film to keep developing but at a less-contrasty
less-fast rate ...

good luck with yer experiments !

john

 

[Dan Quan]

snipped the good stuff

no way i can help you there dan
never used that particular elixir of the gods


if the film doesn't mean much, you could always
brew a strong pot of caffenol ..
and put 40-60cc of ddx in it
develop it as i suggested but substitute
using ddx for dektol, for 6 mins and do 6mins in the caffenol ...

the caffenol allows the film to keep developing but at a less-contrasty
less-fast rate ...

good luck with yer experiments !

john

Thanks, I will def post the results, if they are postable.

 

[erikg]

John has a good approach there. Voice of experience. For old film you want to keep fog down so it's best to keep the development time short, with high energy and lower temp. (65F) HC110 is great for this, but the DDX should work too. Dektol or a print developer is also good. I think Rodinal and stand is exactly not what you want to do. You'd just be boosting up the low (fog) density too much.

 

[Dan Quan]

John has a good approach there. Voice of experience. For old film you want to keep fog down so it's best to keep the development time short, with high energy and lower temp. (65F) HC110 is great for this, but the DDX should work too. Dektol or a print developer is also good. I think Rodinal and stand is exactly not what you want to do. You'd just be boosting up the low (fog) density too much.

Cool, and noted.

Thanks for the input.

 

[Axle]

Newly produced, mold injected plastic 620 spools can be purchased through the FPP: Dead Link Removed

 

[heespharm]

John has a good approach there. Voice of experience. For old film you want to keep fog down so it's best to keep the development time short, with high energy and lower temp. (65F) HC110 is great for this, but the DDX should work too. Dektol or a print developer is also good. I think Rodinal and stand is exactly not what you want to do. You'd just be boosting up the low (fog) density too much.

Good point... Didn't think about fogging


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[removed account4]

John has a good approach there. Voice of experience. For old film you want to keep fog down so it's best to keep the development time short, with high energy and lower temp. (65F) HC110 is great for this, but the DDX should work too. Dektol or a print developer is also good. I think Rodinal and stand is exactly not what you want to do. You'd just be boosting up the low (fog) density too much.

thanks for the shout-out erik !

yeah less time the better/

john
) i haven't used fresh film in almost a decade (

 

[Denverdad]

The black and silver color scheme makes me think Ansco film. I have found a few rolls similar to this, including some labeled "Ansco ALL WEATHER" film.
I agree that HC-110 is a good choice for developer.

 

[Dan Quan]

The black and silver color scheme makes me think Ansco film. I have found a few rolls similar to this, including some labeled "Ansco ALL WEATHER" film.
I agree that HC-110 is a good choice for developer.

Good eye there Denverdad. Perhaps that is it. I don't want to unroll it till I am ready or almost ready to process, but if it does say Ansco All Weather Pan I now have an ISO rating.

 

[anfenglin]

That's quite a bold claim, "guaranteed pictures that satisfy or a new roll free"! Also, if the pictures don't satisfy, why would you want a new roll of the stuff you were dissatisfied with in the first place? Marketing, huh?

 

[ozphoto]

Newly produced, mold injected plastic 620 spools can be purchased through the FPP: Dead Link Removed

Now this makes me really smile!!!!