No. Not right now we don't. Not even close.
Right now we need a reliable long-term source of quality photographic color transparency film. Printing from slides is pretty meaningless if slides are extinct, don't you think? In a world of constrained resources, there's a reason it's called the critical path.
And there's a reason that transparency film is on that path. And a reason that begging Film Ferrania to distract themselves from that critical path to address the issue of resurrecting Cibachrome is not.
Ken
P.S. Don't ever let yourself be persuaded to believe anything you blindly read on the Internet. Are you familiar at all with the term peer reviewed? And why the Internet isn't? Listen to PE and AgX. Research and analytical thinking are far more valuable skills to you than just clicking on another silly online button and repeating whatever you see...
Yes i agree, im just a little Naive at times.
But yes, im TOTALLY in support of Film Ferranias choice of doing E6 first, in fact it wouldnt bother me if it was another 5 years or more before they introduced other C41 or B&W films.
I dont mean to distract ferrania onto Cibachrome either, i was just bringing it up as a future idea.
Im thinking outside the square, as Ferrania want to be a self contained film plant for the next 100 years, then what products would we expect in the future, assuming Kodak and Fuji are no longer making colour film?
Dave even has said here that its not a bad thing that we are discussing all this speculation, as it gives them an idea on what the market wants.
TBH, im not expecting them to bring out every film imaginable, but its good to know where they stand on the future of paper production etc.
Some people are asking for a kodachrome type film, i know we wont see that, and those people are dreamers, lets move on and embrace E6.
I feel that most of our questions have been answered by Dave anyway, hence why for interests sake the topic of photographic paper comes to mind.
Again, its not a top priority at all, but perhaps an E6 paper could be produced in the future to make positive prints who knows, but its exciting either way with what Film Ferrania will deliver.
Ok back on track.
I've never understood why the Cibichrome process had to be so complicated or expensive.
What I mean is, if you're just printing a positive off of a positive, isn't it just like exposing a positive from the real world?
Can't you just create a layer similar to the E6 process but layered on a paper base instead of an acetate base?
What am I missing?
It doesnt work the same way as processing E6 film.
It has far more stable dyes than film itself, the dyes are already incorporated into the paper itself and when developed are removed to form the image.
Film uses dye couplers which form the dyes in a chemical reaction, so the two processes are significantly different. The azo dyes in Ilfochrome are far more stable and dont fade in the same way that film does.
Can anyone shed any light on what dyes todays digital printers use? Its unclear whether they use an azo dye based material.