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I'm the proud new owner of a 1984 SWC/M (CF lens and old style megaphone viewfinder). Does anybody have any guidance as to how "loose" the framing in the viewfinder is? I can see the top of the lens (sans hood) at the bottom of the viewfinder, so if I imagine a square with the bottom of the frame starting at the lens will that give me a reasonable approximation of the final image? I'm planning on getting a screen adapter sooner rather than later (hopefully I can find one with a grid that doesn't cost an arm and a leg), but I'd like to get my framing "right" while I run some film through it. I've read the manual and the bit describing the framing doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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Check out this thread, especially posting #9, #11 and later. Unfortunately the posted image is gone. Maybe someone saved it. Sirius?

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
 

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Congrats, Groundloop! I recently acquired one of these too. I've shot a few rolls of HP5+ but haven't gotten around to developing them yet. The SWC is such a unique camera and I'm enjoying the odd ergonomics/haptics. By all accounts I imagine that I'll enjoy the optical performance/characteristics as well. I really ought to develop those rolls!
 
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Thanks Theo. I read that thread you linked to last night and I was still scratching my head. I think I found the missing image that Q.G. originally posted:

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and have downloaded it for safe keeping. After a coffee this morning I re-read the manual, re-read Q.G.'s description (the square poster analogy is what finally clicked for me), and I think I've got it. The viewfinder is pretty darn accurate for distant subjects, less so for closer subjects, so I think I'll be OK with the viewfinder for casual shooting when I just drop the camera into the shoulder bag I take to work, but I'll need a screen adapter for a couple of the projects I have in mind.

Thanks frank. I've wanted an SWC/M for a very long while, and I've been shooting with my 500C/M a lot recently, so that put me on the hunt again. It was striking at first how much quieter it is than the 500C/M. You don't get that satisfying mechanical "thwop" of the mirror slapping up and the baffles opening. I'm looking forward to putting a few rolls of film through it this weekend. Develop your film!
 

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Yes, that's the diagram Q.G. was referring to -- I remember corresponding with him at the time because I'd recently acquired an SWC myself. IIRC he suggested I think of two square "cones" -- one projecting out of the lens to the subject, and the other projecting out of the viewfinder. With the subject at infinity, the five inch distance between lens center and viewfinder center, and the other distance noted on the diagram, become immaterial; the closer the subject is to the lens, the more the four noted distances at bottom, sides and top come into play. So yes, if you're shooting a subject at 6 feet, best tip the camera up slightly so the central point of your imagined photo is below visual center of the viewfinder.

One other handy focusing/framing calculation: you can imagine that the SWC captures a square image having each side 1.5 times the lens to subject distance. So, for example, if the subject is at 6 feet (and the lens is properly focused at 6 feet), the negative will capture an image 9 feet on a side around your subject. Turning the equation around, if you were photographing a person who is 6 feet tall, you could do so by taking the picture from 4 feet away from the subject -- probably pointing the camera at their navel, but you get the idea. Keeping this in mind is very useful in fast-moving situations -- with your camera focused at 10 feet, you can imagine that you're swinging a huge square frame 15 feet on a side. That's a pretty big field of view at 10 feet!
 

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This is the same viewing/taking lens issue that occurs with every twin-lens reflex camera, i.e. Rolleiflex and similar.

It usually is of no consequence. Just leave enough crop distance around the image to clear the error.

If it really matters, put a 5"x5" square at the subject and align the viewfinder on the top edge.

- Leigh
 

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Yes that is the missing diagram. The image is a little lower and a little smaller. The viewfinder gives a good enough idea of the field of view that it has never been a problem for me.

Enjoy your SWC!
 
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@Oldwino, I think I'll just quote my late Scots-Irish mother:

"T'each his own".

While I appreciate that many people have used the Hassy Superwide cameras for street shooting and more candid styles, that's not my reason for buying one. I guess you could call me a formalist so the vast majority of my shooting is from a tripod, and I scan and print the rebate of the film, so cropping and reframing after the fact isn't really an option for me.
 

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For the first few years of SWC ownership, I used it primarily for architectural indoor and outdoor photos.

It's become a far more versatile tool than I imagined.
 
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