Thanks. Good to know. Think I'm leaning towards making a PC-TEA or PC-Glykol instead, or some variation, but seeing what's out there and possible first.Very little. Maybe two or three rolls in total. I found that the auggested times were not working for me — my negatives were coming out too dense. Went back to HC-110 and forgot about it.
your PC-512Borax looks interesting. Didn't see benzotriazole on the MSDS, but from my little knowledge the dark colour doesn't inspire confidence.This was the first I've seen of it, after this thread was bumped. Looks like it's PC-TEA with benzotriazole added. That's going to be pretty grainy and as @Dusty Negative said, pretty viscous. Also the fact that's it's so brown makes me think it's not a very high quality TEA being used.
Thanks, yeah, if you are interested in this kind of developer, I think PC-512 Borax is a lot better than PC-Glycol (which I used a lot). It's finer-grained and times track XTOL reasonably well (it's a little shorter times), which helps in testing new films.Thanks. Good to know. Think I'm leaning towards making a PC-TEA or PC-Glykol instead, or some variation, but seeing what's out there and possible first.
your PC-512Borax looks interesting. Didn't see benzotriazole on the MSDS, but from my little knowledge the dark colour doesn't inspire confidence.
As of a year ago, it was only available from Photo Warehouse. And, yes, it’s made in Canada.Just out of idle curiosity, is the developer still being made in Canada and sold by N American stockists? Certainly few here seem to have adopted it
Thanks
pentaxuser
Just out of idle curiosity, is the developer still being made in Canada and sold by N American stockists? Certainly few here seem to have adopted it
Thanks
pentaxuser
A year
As of a year ago, it was only available from Photo Warehouse. And, yes, it’s made in Canada.
Yes, I've seen some of the user info on it, but wondered if anyone here had personal experience with it. I'll be developing Delta 400 and Kentmere 400 exposed at box speed.
On Flic Film's website they list a number of suppliers who don't seem to carry it, B&H being one of them. It's odd because they carry some of the other product line.
Thanks for the tips of disposing of chemicals.
OK. Thanks for the info. I'm going to start developing B&W film and just wanted the easiest, longest-lasting, and friendliest developer I could get. The Black White Green looked to fill the bill but I did notice on their dev chart that the dev times were quite long and my dev temps will probably be around 72 degrees Fahrenheit.
I will look up Gainer's PC-TEA. Thanks.
Hey, if you're just starting out, I'd suggest starting with one of the common, mainstream developers. You'll find it easier to get dev times, and people can help direct you around any issues you might encounter. As suggested above, Kodak XTOL or ADOX XT-3 (same thing) are quite eco friendly. If you want long-lasting and are ok with it not being super eco, HC-110 might be a good choice.
Gainer's PC-TEA....Does this have to be mixed from raw ingredients or can it be purchased already mixed? If so, where? Thanks.
Well, that's what the Flic-Film Black, White, and Green film developer is intended to be -- i.e. a commercially available pre-mixed PC-TEA. And PC-TEA, in turn, was intended to be a long-lasting, liquid concentrate equivalent to XTOL.
XTOL is green friendly.
Yes but where's the chart that always seems to be an accompaniment
pentaxuser
This has been discussed countless timesWell, that's what the Flic-Film Black, White, and Green film developer is intended to be -- i.e. a commercially available pre-mixed PC-TEA. And PC-TEA, in turn, was intended to be a long-lasting, liquid concentrate equivalent to XTOL.
The Flic Film developer is made in Canada, but is available from at least one U.S.-based retailer: Photo Warehouse, who calls it "Ultrafine Black, White, and Green" on their website. (Photos and the full description show that it's the Flic Film stuff.) I just ordered some from them, and they shipped it to me yesterday. Total with shipping was $34.90. You can find it here:
Ultrafine ECO Black, White, and Green Film Developer 250 ML by Flic Film - UltraFine B & W Photo Chemicals Liquid and Liquid Concentrates
A very ECO (environmentally) friendly developer that can safely be flushed down the drain or into your septic system without guilt or harm. The active developer is Vitamin C and the superadditive is Phenidone, long known as a low toxin developer. The developers are carried in an alkaline...www.ultrafineonline.com
I haven't used this developer before, so can't give you any feedback on how it works. I do agree with others that if you're just starting out, you may want to begin with a very widely used developer known to give good results across a range of conditions.
When I first started developing film again (after a 30-year hiatus), I began with XTOL. It gave me very good results, but mixing it from powder, in 5 liter quantities, and then trying to keep it from
degrading before I had a chance to use it (I don't develop that much film and certainly not on a regular cadence) became a little inconvenient. That's why I'm interested in trying this liquid from Flic Film; if it looks good, and doesn't degrade much over 12-24 months, it could be the right stuff for me.
This has been discussed countless times
I store xtol in 1 liter glass bottles filled to the brim..it always works as in always
Just decant into smaller containers as you use it up
Willing to pay $35 for pc-tea I'll make for you for $25 anytime
Maybe this BWG developer won't be that solution, but to me it's well worth spending 35 bucks to find out.
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