Harman Technology is a new and separate business from the Ilford that nearly went away completely in 2005. They have worked hard to remain associated in the public's mind with the former Ilford, but they aren't that entity
That is a political point of view. Is the essence of a business its company documents and some men-in-suits owning shares, or is it a factory and the work of a few dozen or hundred people? If we choose to say it's the factory and its people that are the business, then Ilford in Moberley has been continuous through various changes in ownership and direction that took place to let the important activity continue.
The "other Ilford" has continued the association between Ilford and colour - after all, It was the old "Ilford" that had the "Cibachrome/Ilfochrome" business.
They negotiated a medium term lease of the former Ilford building and fixed equipment - they don't own that, they lease it.
Thinking back to the big stink caused by Pemberstone's plan to re-develop the land for housing and a shrunken "right-sized" factory, if Pemberstone doesn't own the land, just who does?
Likewise here in the UKAre land ownership records publicly available in the UK? They are here, but there is a fee for each search.
Thinking back to the big stink caused by Pemberstone's plan to re-develop the land for housing and a shrunken "right-sized" factory, if Pemberstone doesn't own the land, just who does?
I don't know.
I guess there is a possibility that through separate purchase they may have recently purchased it. Or them may have had an agreement to purchase that was contingent on approval of that development plan.
Are land ownership records publicly available in the UK? They are here, but there is a fee for each search.
Do you think the Harford/Ilman "who's who" sub-thread could be siphoned off? It's taking on a life of its own and distracting from Phoenix, which is an ongoing story.
Golly, that was quick! Were you planning to do it anyway?
Where can one learn more about that fact?
Having had a quick look at the accounts of Harman Technology Ltd, its immediate parent The Harman Group Ltd, its parent Pemberstone Ventures (2013) Ltd, its parent Pemberstone Ventures Ltd and the ultimate parent Pemberstone Venture Holdings Ltd, there does not seem to be any sign of a freehold purchase in 2019 for £17 million. Neither do the related party transactions for the two Harman companies show any rental payments to related entities outside the Pemberstone Venture Holdings Ltd group. So it doesn't look like the freehold was acquired by any Pemberstone entity in 2019.The Land Registry site shows that the freehold site was sold on 9 December 2019 for £17 million.
The Land Registry site shows that the freehold site was sold on 9 December 2019 for £17 million. Unfortunately, without doing a paid title search the names of the seller and buyer can't be seen.
https://search-property-information...ywNSBls_hWWyis447g==/YA7YJVDk01PFv2uceqP0rw==
This is the leasehold title (not the it tells you much)
https://search-property-information...duT-SMjwSjh8o6-Vhg==/H5XvA7S3d0cwXIE0zGt3pA==
Although harman dont own the land they do benefit from some protections as tenant of the site. Additionally the proposed redevelopment for housing (with a smaller factory) failed because the factory is under the manchester airport flight path and noise levels are therefore very high to the extent planning for housing was refused. (Noting ilford imaging had previously sold part of the site, the old rajar works for housing in the early 2000s) but the airport traffic has increased with the second runway since.
I liked it when FP4+ was called Arista by Freestyle and cheaper than FP4+.I don't follow the obsession with not distinguishing between these two names. I’d use FP4+ no matter what trading name it used… and I call it by that name, whatever it may be.
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I liked it when FP4+ was called Arista by Freestyle and cheaper than FP4+.
I think cutting the thread and changing the title changes the context.
Especially after Harman gains some success selling colour film, they can rebrand all their b&w film under their own name and market to all their new colour film customers - and drop the word "Ilford" altogether. Practically no one would notice.
I could see them switching to increasing the visibility of "Harman" and using "Ilford" as a reference to their very special, black and white product line.
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