I think it’s personal for him. He has strongly implied (without actually saying) that Fuji sent him a cease and desist for his planned Fugu film E6 film, which is part of why it’s delayed/cancelled.
Only if you’re adding. If multiplying you’ll get a product.
No, it's Fuji who are in the wrong if this is so. Lousiness on their part.
when I shoot slide film, I want the SLIDES back.. Scans are optional.I heard that slide films are easier to make than negative films. Take photos, send in the film, and get scans back.
I heard that slide films are easier to make than negative films.
when I shoot slide film, I want the SLIDES back.. Scans are optional.
I don't think so. With neg films the overall sensitivity and colour balance isn't critical because correction occurs during printing. With reversal, both the sensitivity and the colour needs to be spot on.
I heard that slide films are easier to make than negative films. The only thing standing in the way is that it's E-6 processing that the end user needs instead of regular C-41. But if Harman figured they could make a slide film more easily, maybe they partnered with various labs who will process the film, and maybe it comes with a Harman mailer, or something like that. Most people don't even know the difference anyway, so to them it'd basically be the same. Take photos, send in the film, and get scans back.
But they're just being Japanese
That's what is puzzling me as I'm struggling to think what would give rise to such excitement among the various influencers that are in the know other than C41 colour film. I imagine that Pemberton will be looking for something that gives a reasonably quick pay-back of what has been invested (although looking at the accounts this seems to be around a couple of million - unless there has been massive spend since Dec 2022) which would agin point to C41 35mm films around 200/400 ISO for the amateur market as that must be where the volume is. It's difficult to think of anything else that would come within the categories covered by the Phoenix trademark that would create as much wide-ranging excitement.Bellamy saying "it's not what you think" is intriguing though.
My favoured local lab near home doesn't do E6 but can send off to a small lab that does....or I can send there directly. I do have a reasonable choice of E6 labs but that requires mailing my films at considerable cost (Royal Mail price hikes in recent years really do add up) compared to walking into the shop with the mini-lab that does C41. Notably, what was "Snappy Snaps" near my workplace has now reopened after a four year closure as an independent photo lab complete with mini-lab and both Kodak & Ilford film on sale. I might pop in soon to get to know them and see what services they offer.
I want to shoot a decent batch of E6 next year, finishing off what I have on stock (Pandemic dated Provia). I disgress about Fuji supplying easily as at the moment their line up is just strange (specially in 120). Chromes are listed but rather sold out in Europe and there are no pro 120 C41 films, honestly if one is a user this is rather frustrating. However, at least they did warn in late 2022 and early 2023 with the couple notices about shortages and the Japanese order pause period.Fuji is also organized primarily as an industrial B2B company, not as a consumer brand. They're very different from e.g. Kodak and Harman in this respect, and this difference has only been amplified when the market for film photography collapsed around 2003. Take the RA4 business for instance. It's not that they don't want to reach out to people like us. It's simply that they don't have the means to do so. I suspect it's very similar for the Japanese branche that deals with film manufacturing. They're not organized to talk to us. They're very good at talking to other industrial partners, however.
As to E6 - it's a difficult market and I'd be very surprised to see Harman enter it. If anything I see processing capacity for E6 drop due to a lack of demand. It doesn't seem to benefit from the film resurgence as much as C41 and B&W do.
and there are no pro 120 C41 films
The cultural aspect/attitude is certainly of note. Times really have changed. In the heydays of film, it was fine for a firm like Fuji doing unidirectional communications to the market - basically broadcasting/advertising and getting the message across. Today, people expect more of a dialogue and more interactivity. My impression is that this in particular is what's currently hurting Fuji's reputation; they're not very well set up to do this for their film and paper products. Interestingly, they do try in some areas, but this is almost entirely unnoticed on this platform. For instance, the paper people are active on instagram and do artist takeovers where a photographer takes over their IG channel for a week. And the digital camera people have a small group of 'ambassadors' who are an integral part of their community reach out, with these people giving lectures, Q&A's, doing shows etc. It's just quite labor intensive to do all these things, which I guess is the main reason that holds them back. Harman seems to do this better, and Adox too, but I do wonder to what extent their jobs are made easier because they just have a much narrower product range and market segments to focus on. They can indeed focus their efforts, while Fuji is juggling a rather large number of balls, especially on the market side.As in having quite a distance towards the end users, which is interesting in these times and rather cultural.
Yes they are. We can buy Portra film in all formats in which it is manufactured.Are they not available in Sweden?
Portra and Ektar are 'pro' and seem to be available at least around here, especially in 120.
He spoke about Fujifilm Professional c41 films.
It’s expensive as hell though.
I don't know the nature of the relationship between Pemperstone and Harman and to what extent the former is willing to invest in what kind of endeavors. Maybe. Maybe not. This is the kind of thing we generally don't hear about.there's capital available to do a color film line if it makes sense.
This certainly sounds like a good argument in favour of it being C41 rather than E6 to meUp-thread it has been stated that E6 film is a little easier to manufacture than C41....but while we might be happy to see more E6 film of good quality, that's not what the audience for this social media campaign seem to want....nor are Kodak or Fuji having difficulty supplying their E6 films. There *is* a gap for a faster E6 film for sure, but it's one of those "niche within a niche within a niche" products. I can't see it paying off for Harman if they've invested any kind of significant sum on this. The market, and money, is in amatuer 200 or 400ISO C41 films in 35mm....and if they achieve a good reputation and good sales in that they might then branch out into 120 and other speeds.
apparently it's no longer a secret
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