Harman Photo 17th June announcement. Any ideas what this might be?

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[Michael Howard]

Well, based on the graphics....Phoenix II?

 

[Erik L]

Well I selfishly hope it’s an announcement that they are cutting their paper prices in half!

 

[koraks]

Well, based on the graphics....Phoenix II?

Maybe; it's unclear at this point. The red glow is certainly a different hue than Phoenix branding currently and it may also refer to very bright B&W darkroom safelighting, also given the outline of what could be a doorway.

 

[Sharktooth]

I'm guessing there was another manufacturing screw-up, so we're going to be getting a "NEW" limited edition Redscale film. Yippee!!

 

[sednoid]

Maybe it's Red in 120...

 

[moggi1964]

Maybe it's Red in 120...

This! 100% certain
Thank goodness; I wanted to have some for my trip to Amsterdam a week later.

 

[Michael Howard]

Just curious, how well would Red work in 120 with the emulsion side scraping along the pressure plate? I've never used a "red" film, so I'm genuinely curious.

 

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Just curious, how well would Red work in 120 with the emulsion side scraping along the pressure plate? I've never used a "red" film, so I'm genuinely curious.

120 has backing paper between the film and the pressure plate.

 

[Michael Howard]

Lol, yeah, duh. Nevermind...

 

[Agulliver]

Saw this last night and it's got me wondering. I don't think that redscale film in 120 would be all that big a deal. It's Harman rather than Ilford or Kentmere so it's related to colour film photography. I would think we're due a development in the Phoenix product, perhaps an improved version.

 

[Ian Grant]

It would make sense for a colour film upgrade, they employed ex Agfa technicians sometime ago. So it's time for a major improvement.

Ian

 

[thinkbrown]

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but this announcement is happening on the first day of B&H BILD next week. Harman is on the exhibitor list so

 

[Ian Grant]

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but this announcement is happening on the first day of B&H BILD next week. Harman is on the exhibitor list so

It won't be a coincidence

 

[pentaxuser]

What's the betting that on the day in question 65 YouTubers, 64 of which are in California and who,have been sworn to secrecy, show us their videos on the product?

pentaxuser

 

[Milpool]

Yay another half ass product with a bonus price increase on paper.

 

[thinkbrown]

Yay another half ass product with a bonus price increase on paper.

That's a shocking amount of negativity towards one of the only companies out there developing new film products.

 

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What's the betting that on the day in question 65 YouTubers, 64 of which are in California and who,have been sworn to secrecy, show us their videos on the product?

pentaxuser

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[Andrew O'Neill]

Just curious, how well would Red work in 120 with the emulsion side scraping along the pressure plate? I've never used a "red" film, so I'm genuinely curious.

It'll work fine. I tested it with Phoenix 120. Flipped the film around so that the film base was up. Made a video recently.
Here's one from the roll:

 

[moggi1964]

That's a shocking amount of negativity towards one of the only companies out there developing new film products.

Agreed! I have enjoyed using Phoenix and Red and am hopeful that this will be Red 120 (I might have had a nod and a wink from someone who is the trade)

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I would be very happy if it's Phoenix Red in 120. Saves me from making my own!

 

[retina_restoration]

Yay another half ass product with a bonus price increase on paper.

Shame on you for dissing one of the very few surviving film manufacturers, simply because not all of their experimental products meet with your approval. What an appalling attitude.

 

[Milpool]

That's a shocking amount of negativity towards one of the only companies out there developing new film products.

Please. Nobody needs new film products. There are plenty of excellent films and if you really, really must have junk colour film it is trivial to do that in whatever digital editor is being used. Printing paper at a reasonable price would be nice but ain't gonna happen because Pemberstone (Harman) needs "growth".

 

[Milpool]

Shame on you for dissing one of the very few surviving film manufacturers, simply because not all of their experimental products meet with your approval. What an appalling attitude.

Oh the shame. It's just shameful.

 

[thinkbrown]

Please. Nobody needs new film products. There are plenty of excellent films and if you really, really must have junk colour film it is trivial to do that in whatever digital editor is being used. Printing paper at a reasonable price would be nice but ain't gonna happen because Pemberstone (Harman) needs "growth".

We're in a world where Fuji has virtually stopped making film and Kodak Alaris has been bought by VC. I'm really happy we have a second/third supplier of color films (depending on if you count InovisCoat at the moment), and I've made great photographs on both Phoenix and Kentmere 200.

The unfortunate reality of shooting film is that we're directly impacted by the price of silver and that's about doubled in the last 5 years. It's no surprise that film and paper costs have risen.