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Hi,

I'd like to make some halftone prints using a halftone screen to get all the little dots. I'm aware this is typically now done digitally, but I'd love to be able to do it in the darkroom. Problem is, I've no clue where I could get my hands on a halftone screen in this day and age.

I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can find, or how I could make one.
 

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Hi,

I'd like to make some halftone prints using a halftone screen to get all the little dots. I'm aware this is typically now done digitally, but I'd love to be able to do it in the darkroom. Problem is, I've no clue where I could get my hands on a halftone screen in this day and age.

I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can find, or how I could make one.
Halftone screens come in different lines (dots) per inch, depending on the kind of printing press they are intended for, from 65 lines per inch for letterpress newspaper presses to 300 lines per inch for high-end offset presses. Be aware that halftone screens are meant to be used for contact printing, most commonly on lithographic negative film. I guess you could use one in an enlarger with a big enough negative, but you will get an exaggerated dot pattern. You might find a screen for the direct-positive process called PMT, that might work for you. For any of them unless you are printing on litho film, print on the highest contrast paper available. It is the screen that produces the tones in the print.
 

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Yes, you would. It is best to use a contact printing frame to keep the screen securely sandwiched with the paper, giving you sharp halftone dots. I assume you want the dots to be apparent, so I would suggest the coarsest screen you can find, usually between 45 and 65 lines per inch.
 
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I think I might try and make a screen by simply using an inkjet printer on acetate.
I'm fairly certain the pattern I need is a crisscross like this, correct?:

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Perhaps with finer holes.
 

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If I remember correctly, one can get dot screens from screen printing suppliers...?

Also, I've just found this link that appears to explain how to do it in photie-shop. :smile:

Terry S
 

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Rainbow -- Long ago halftone screens may have been somewhat like the sample you posted above. This may still work if the goal isn't the best possible half-tone images. Printing with such screens is more complicated that one might think. Using soft-edge dots and printing onto high contrast paper or film may give better results. I suggest studying halftone printing before investing in screens.
 
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I'm intending to do this with some high contrast negatives onto multigrade paper.

Using soft-edge dots and printing onto high contrast paper or film may give better results.

This is an ingenious idea. I won't be able to get back with results for a couple of months, but I'm planning to print patterns onto acetate to make my screens. I'll definitely try this.
 

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Using the checkerboard screen is similar to the old way of doing halftone before soft dot screens were made available. These are used with a space between the film and the screen to allow the edges of the checkerboard pattern shadow to soften. The details of the spacing is dependent on the light source and the film used among other things. Its not easy to get technically great results but doable. The grid used to be on glass and suspended over the film to control the spacing but I would imagine a clear piece of film or two could do the same thing in a vacuum frame. The next obstacle would be to have high enough contrast paper to create hard edged dots from a halftone screen. This used to be available to the graphic arts industry along with special developers to get lithographic contrast but is much harder to source now.
After that would be experimenting to get the proper baseline exposure for the shadow dot and the required bump exposure to bring up the highlight dot on your positive print. Been there done that, years working a process camera at a local newspaper before the digital revolution.
 

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Way back when, when I was preparing photos for publication, I employed two ways: a direct method by placing a special screen over a Polaroid film and shooting pic, or placing screen on paper in frame as described above. Nowadays, no need. Publishers and printers can take photographs and artwork as is, and digitally prepare for printing. I may still have this app stuff somewhere in house, although ask I remember, only used with small prints.
If you desire a dotty look, probably easier to scan and work in Photoshop. There are times when we should take advantage of digital technology.
 

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If I remember correctly, one can get dot screens from screen printing suppliers...?

Also, I've just found this link that appears to explain how to do it in photie-shop. :smile:

Terry S
I've only just realised that I forgot to add the link, but if you google 'halftone with photoshop' you will get lots of links. :smile:

Terry S
 

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I'm intending to do this with some high contrast negatives onto multigrade paper.



This is an ingenious idea. I won't be able to get back with results for a couple of months, but I'm planning to print patterns onto acetate to make my screens. I'll definitely try this.
Experiment. I believe you will get better results (more halftone pattern) with a flat negative. A high-contrast neg will only print more high-contrast and lose detail.
 

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Experiment. I believe you will get better results (more halftone pattern) with a flat negative. A high-contrast neg will only print more high-contrast and lose detail.
This is what the “bump” exposure is for in my previous post. After you find the exposure that will give you a tiny dot showing in the black areas you give the setup an overall exposure to non image light to bring up the detail in the light tones, just enough the white area have a tiny black dot in it. This allows reproducing images no matter the contrast of the original.
 

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Using the checkerboard screen is similar to the old way of doing halftone before soft dot screens were made available. These are used with a space between the film and the screen to allow the edges of the checkerboard pattern shadow to soften. The details of the spacing is dependent on the light source and the film used among other things. Its not easy to get technically great results but doable. The grid used to be on glass and suspended over the film to control the spacing but I would imagine a clear piece of film or two could do the same thing in a vacuum frame. The next obstacle would be to have high enough contrast paper to create hard edged dots from a halftone screen. This used to be available to the graphic arts industry along with special developers to get lithographic contrast but is much harder to source now.
After that would be experimenting to get the proper baseline exposure for the shadow dot and the required bump exposure to bring up the highlight dot on your positive print. Been there done that, years working a process camera at a local newspaper before the digital revolution.

All good, but getting a high contrast developer will require mixing from scratch chemicals today. In the distant past I had a go at mixing my own lithofilm developer, it was successful, but it took too much time from a business point of view. I was using it every day, so time cost money and I continued to purchase litho film developer; usually Agfa as theirs was the cheapest.

The only sort of odd ingredients were Diethylene Glycol and Formaldehyde (37%), everything else would be on the shelf of a person mixing their developers from scratch.

One needs to ensure you have fresh stop bath and back then you needed a hardening fixer. I almost always used 24ºC, as that was what our deep roller transport baths used at work.

Question as I was not a camera operator, was your highlight dot aim around 10% to 15%?

With regard to adding some clear sheets of film, that did work for me in the past, sometimes though, going through the back door was enough to soften things (contact printing where the dot screen is not emulsion to emulsion). Somewhere I still have some halftone sheets of film taken directly from original glass sheet line screens. I have 40#, 55#, 60#, 65# and 90# inch half tone. For home use without a good vacuum frame, I couldn't hold highlight dots any finer than 90#, even then I was being ambitious. 55# which is 55 lines per inch, worked the best; as far as I can remember.

Mick.
 
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