Half Frame Super 8

[perkeleellinen]

I just found the website "straight8.net", they run a yearly challenge to make a film on a single super 8 cartridge with no editing. If it's good, it gets shown at film festivals along with the other good 'uns.

Anyway, I watched a short video clip of some previous entrants and one film maker had shot his cartridge twice - when projected there were two movies sitting side by side on each half of the frame. I suppose he masked one half of the lens and then switched the mask. Nice idea but I'm wondering how easy is it to rewind the film in the cartridge and how would you know it has been cranked back the whole way?

Sorry if this is old news, I've never seen a half-frame super 8 film before.

 

[AgX]

It is not "half-frame", but "split-frame".
Interesting anyway. But I doubt whether I would enjoy two movies projected in parallel.
But it seems trendy on the background of informations of most different kind shown on the tv screen by some stations and those picture-in-picture tv sets...

 

[perkeleellinen]

Yeah, sorry, I suppose it would be split frame. Just been thinking more about it and perhaps there's no need to rewind the film, maybe it needs moving forward just an inch or so to skip the part of the film with the cut-out.

 

[ic-racer]

I believe quad frame is easy with a dual 8 camera if you can rig a tripod mount on top of the camera. Then show the film on a 16mm projector without splitting it.

 

[AgX]

...if you can rig a tripod mount on top of the camera,...

...or can make an U-bracket.

 

[Dirb9]

I'd be very curious to know how he did this in-cart, assuming it is a S8 cart. Super 8 carts are coaxial (the two reels are stacked on top of each other), and only the bottom takeup reel is linked to the advance gear on the bottom. Therefore rewinding has always been a problem, even the really fancy Beaulieus and standalone rewinders could only do maybe 150 frames (maybe 7 seconds), it is a limitation built into the cart. That was one of the things promoted about Fuji's single 8 format, unlimited rewinds were possible due to the fact that the two reels were seperate.