Guillotine serrated edge cutter

[Bob Carnie]

Hi Folks

Any one know where I can get this type of cutter for prints up to 11 x14 or 8 x10?

 

[removed account4]

hi bob:

i am not sure if this sort of thing is what you are looking for
but i typed in "deckled edged paper trimmer" in google and found
oodles of them.
https://www.google.com/#q=deckle+edge+paper+trimmer
i've deckled book pages ( rag paper ) by putting a straight edge down and
tearing up, against it ..
have fun !
john

 

[Bob Carnie]

Randy on Large Format linked me to a promising site.

I am trying to reproduce the edge Kodak gave our parents on silver prints, you know the look.

Bob

 

[Photo Engineer]

The deckle edge.

 

[AgX]

i typed in "deckled edged paper trimmer" in google and found
oodles of them.

Deckle originates from the german word Deckel wich means cover or lid.

Seemingly in early papermaking the frame that held the paper pulp on the web was called Deckel too.
As paper pulp leaked under that frame, the uneven thin edge was called deckle edge.

From this a on-purpose sharp cut wavy edge got the name deckle edge too.

 

[Bob Carnie]

I am being led by Randy over on Large Format to a steel stamp and emboss idea which I really like,

The purpose for me is to make Box Sets, which would also have the photographers estate embossed in the area surrounding the live image. Allowing for signature
and space to present the work in a pleasing manner.

A custom stamp and emboss would be very nice, the next stage would be to find a source of high quality boxes to put these signature prints in.

Quite small and sleek presentation of this work would be what I am looking for. The project is a fund raising effort to bring this work to eventually a world stage, and that takes
money, therefore the box set idea.
I believe I would do a silver and a pt pd run for the box sets.

Anyone with ideas on the usage of box sets for photographic works , would be appreciated as well

Specifically how does the Box set of lets say 10 images , affect the edition larger pieces?

 

[Jim Jones]

As I replied on LFPF: I have a Carl RT-200 rotary cutter for which deckle blades are available Dead Link Removed. I haven't acquired any but the straight blades. They work fine.

 

[pdeeh]

http://www.apug.org/forum/index.php?threads/deckle-cutter—who-sells-em.68899/

 

[John Koehrer]

From what I've read on the internet, as long as the print sizes are different there doesn't seem to be any conflict.
But! Others feel that an edition includes all sizes of an image..
Looking at some of the more noted photographers you can find individual prints from different
portfolios for sale. Don't know it they're common size with the original individual prints.

 

[Patrick Robert James]

A mechanical deckle edge on a small print is neat, but on an 11x14 it is going to look strange. You might want to consider tearing a wet print over a sharp edge. I think that would get you the deconstructed edge you are looking for Bob. I have done this myself and it does give a quite unique edge. The paper has to be really soaked though.

Hope that helps you.

 

[guangong]

I have a deckle edge cutter that I bought or was given in the late 1960s. Not very long blade. 4x5 would be the largest prints where a deckle edge wouldn't look out of place. For smaller prints a deckle edges appears to offer a wider safety margin against damage.

 

[Bob Carnie]

As I replied on LFPF: I have a Carl RT-200 rotary cutter for which deckle blades are available Dead Link Removed. I haven't acquired any but the straight blades. They work fine.

Hi Jim

That link does not work for me but thanks

 

[Bob Carnie]

From what I've read on the internet, as long as the print sizes are different there doesn't seem to be any conflict.
But! Others feel that an edition includes all sizes of an image..
Looking at some of the more noted photographers you can find individual prints from different
portfolios for sale. Don't know it they're common size with the original individual prints.

I am from the camp that an edition includes all sizes of an image , I like the idea of a varied stamp for the different aspect ratios and sizes of prints I make.

 

[Bob Carnie]

A mechanical deckle edge on a small print is neat, but on an 11x14 it is going to look strange. You might want to consider tearing a wet print over a sharp edge. I think that would get you the deconstructed edge you are looking for Bob. I have done this myself and it does give a quite unique edge. The paper has to be really soaked though.

Hope that helps you.

Thanks Patrick - For the Box sets I am thinking the edge will look good, but as you point out larger prints a more cut edge looks very nice. I am going to really think about the possibility
of making a punch system that embosses at the same time, For my own work I am cutting through aluminum so I have to figure out this, but a press and die set comes to mind .

 

[Jim Jones]

Hi Jim

That link does not work for me but thanks

Sorry, try this: https://www.carlmfg.com/.

 

[Bob Carnie]

Sorry, try this: https://www.carlmfg.com/.

that works thanks

 

[Photo Engineer]

I've not tried this myself, but I believe that the deckle should vary in "size" with format. I have seen prints on paper with natural deckle from the manufacturing process and it looks great but only on big prints because it is so rough.

PE

 

[sepiareverb]

I've not tried this myself, but I believe that the deckle should vary in "size" with format. I have seen prints on paper with natural deckle from the manufacturing process and it looks great but only on big prints because it is so rough.

PE

+1

This is something I've attempted in the past, but the scale of the cutter I used did not at all fit the size of the prints I had done. A disaster.

PE, I'm guessing Kodak had some sort of die cutter to make the deckle edged papers (like AZO Postcard paper).

I have some snapshots from my childhood that were printed on a continuous strip of deckle edge paper. The top and bottom had the familiar deckled edge, and the individual prints had perforations between them.

 

[AgX]

I have some snapshots from my childhood that were printed on a continuous strip of deckle edge paper. The top and bottom had the familiar deckled edge, and the individual prints had perforations between them.

Very peculiar. Never heard of such.
I assume that long-roll paper was intended to be cut by a deckle scissors, but the lab only had a perforation cutter. At least that is the best I can think of.

 

[sepiareverb]

Very peculiar. Never heard of such.
I assume that long-roll paper was intended to be cut by a deckle scissors, but the lab only had a perforation cutter. At least that is the best I can think of.

New Jersey early 70s, likely 71 or72. They came from the lab in an accordion fold. Processed through the local drug store I would guess, that's where we always went with film as far as I can remember.