Grant Haist - Publication rights to "Modern Photographic Processing" V1&2?

[Kino]

I know this subject was brought up on Photrio when PE was still alive, but I have started wondering again what became of the publishing rights to his "Modern Photographic Processing" Vols. 1 & 2?

At that time, Mr. Haist had just passed away and PE stated that there were like only 4 copies available from his estate and no future plans to publish.

John Wiley and Sons published this 2 volume set as part of the Wiley Series on Photographic Science and Technology and the Graphic Arts Series, but the rights had reverted to Haist and he then self published the last editions.

Does anyone have any further information on Haist and his descendants and if anyone has tried to contact them to secure rights for another publication run?

The only information I could find was his obituary, which lists a daughter as his sole surviving member of the immediate family.

 

[Kino]

The copy I found has turned out to be rather fragile and I am getting afraid to handle it too much.

These books deserve to be re-published and made available to all.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I sold both volumes a while ago here. Use Mac's Time Machine, and go back and buy it from me back then.

 

[Kino]

If we could get a release from the family, I know I could get it scanned and placed on several Media History Websites for download.

 

[Raghu Kuvempunagar]

If we could get a release from the family, I know I could get it scanned and placed on several Media History Websites for download.

Scans of Haist's two volumes are already available on several websites though I've no idea if a release was obtained from his heirs.

 

[laingsoft]

I'd be very interested in getting in touch with them. Hell, I'll buy the rights from them.

 

[AgX]

Scans of Haist's two volumes are already available on several websites though I've no idea if a release was obtained from his heirs.

I do not know of any site offering online reading. In case you mean that.

 

[pmviewcam]

Both volumes are available at Z-lib for free downoad for registered users.

 

[AgX]

Thank you for that hint.

 

[rmazzullo]

Bump --- both volumes are available new on e-bay and apparently have been for a while.

Bob

 

[RalphLambrecht]

I know this subject was brought up on Photrio when PE was still alive, but I have started wondering again what became of the publishing rights to his "Modern Photographic Processing" Vols. 1 & 2?

At that time, Mr. Haist had just passed away and PE stated that there were like only 4 copies available from his estate and no future plans to publish.

John Wiley and Sons published this 2 volume set as part of the Wiley Series on Photographic Science and Technology and the Graphic Arts Series, but the rights had reverted to Haist and he then self published the last editions.

Does anyone have any further information on Haist and his descendants and if anyone has tried to contact them to secure rights for another publication run?

The only information I could find was his obituary, which lists a daughter as his sole surviving member of the immediate family.

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Iluckily bought a copy of each of the last print run directly from the author for $300 a few years ago and will entertain any reasonable offer!

 

[Kino]

The copies on Ebay are apparently the final stock of Grant Haist's last publication run,.

According to the seller, when these are gone, no more new hardback versions will be available.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

The copies on Ebay are apparently the final stock of Grant Haist's last publication run,.

According to the seller, when these are gone, no more new hardback versions will be available.

I must have the last hardcover copy of both volumes then!

 

[Doremus Scudder]

I managed to get good scans of both volumes (OCR and searchable) some years ago. I don't know if they are still available anywhere. Mine are the original Wiley books. These deserve to be available.

Doremus

 

[Kino]

This is probably one of those situations where if you formally inquire with the former publisher, then suddenly it gets "complicated".

No one cares until the scent of money enters the equation...

 

[Alex Benjamin]

Found this on Biblio.

The collection is pretty amazing, actually. Price is a bit, well, out of my league.

 

[Kino]

Yes, that collection has been for sale for a few years. Makes me sad someone like the Eastman House didn't wind-up with it to preserve it for the future...

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Found this on Biblio.

The collection is pretty amazing, actually. Price is a bit, well, out of my league.

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Whow, I surely would art with my copies for that price or even a ton less!

 

[relistan]

I have digital copies and would love print copies. However, the digital copies are a lot more useful than the print ones in that they are text searchable. Have found this invaluable. Would love to have an official digital offering I could pay his estate for.

 

[Don_ih]

Like I mentioned in the "Making Kodak Film" thread, if rights holders would just make these books available through print-on-demand services, they could ensure the continued availability of the work while maintaining at least the appearance of copyright - and possibly making a small amount of money. Frankly, print-on-demand is almost guaranteed to be the future of print books - especially academic ones.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Like I mentioned in the "Making Kodak Film" thread, if rights holders would just make these books available through print-on-demand services, they could ensure the continued availability of the work while maintaining at least the appearance of copyright - and possibly making a small amount of money. Frankly, print-on-demand is almost guaranteed to be the future of print books - especially academic ones.

That's what Amazon would like you to believe. Unfortunately, print-on-demand offers the lowest print quality right now. Small print runs offer much better quality at little cost increase; Germany's 'Wir-machen-Druck is a perfect example.

 

[Don_ih]

Unfortunately, print-on-demand offers the lowest print quality right now.

It'll only get better, as the technology improves and more books are printed that way. Some compromises might need to be accepted when the goal is keeping a text perennially available. Short print runs are expensive and don't supply many readers. The books need to be sold by a person - maintain a website, accept orders, pack and ship. Print-on-demand is a full-service package. Once it's set up, whoever looks for the book can buy it. And no unsold stock that will eventually be dumped in a donation or recycling bin.