Grandpa's Target Six-20

[Andrew O'Neill]

Finally took it out for a spin, with a roll of respooled (expired 2003) Verichrome Pan. First time ever using this film. Film was developed in XTol-R.

 

[Arthurwg]

I also love the look of a meniscus lens, even a plastic one. I just had a show of 18"x18" prints shot with a Holga. they look beautiful.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Now you are motivating me to use may Target Six 20, another Target One 18 [?] and Brownie Hawkeye.

 

[pentaxuser]

If that was a picture of Gran'paw and Gran'maw by a car then it wasn't Bonnie and Clyde but may have been "Bob and Mary waiting for the Govan ferry" by the Clyde to mangle a line of the song by Kenneth McKellar "The Song of The Clyde"

It reminds me of my dad's pictures of the Glasgow area taken in the late 1930s

pentaxuser

 

[baachitraka]

I have the box tengor, perhaps the last model. Hope I can shine some film this winter or spring

 

[Donald Qualls]

Target One 18 [?]

3 1/4 x 4 1/4 on a roll. There are 3D printed adapters to run 120 in the camera, though I'm not sure if you can see the frame numbers (and in any case the frames would overlap if you used even the 8-frame track). Count the turns seems to be the next option...

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

If that was a picture of Gran'paw and Gran'maw by a car then it wasn't Bonnie and Clyde but may have been "Bob and Mary waiting for the Govan ferry" by the Clyde to mangle a line of the song by Kenneth McKellar "The Song of The Clyde"

It reminds me of my dad's pictures of the Glasgow area taken in the late 1930s

pentaxuser

My gran was born in Rastrick, England. Came over with her parents when she was a kid (with sibs in tow)...then went back with her mom and left the dad behind...then returned again. I guess the harshness of the Canadian Prairie was too much for my Great Gran at first Gramps was from Saskatchewan. Tough prairie boy. On my dad's side, it's all Scotland...mainly Glasgow, and up in Invergordon area.

 

[Sirius Glass]

3 1/4 x 4 1/4 on a roll. There are 3D printed adapters to run 120 in the camera, though I'm not sure if you can see the frame numbers (and in any case the frames would overlap if you used even the 8-frame track). Count the turns seems to be the next option...

I had a 120 folder Certo SuperDolly which the numbers lined up for 6x6 and no numbers lined up for 645 for any modern film.

 

[pentaxuser]

My gran was born in Rastrick, England. Came over with her parents when she was a kid (with sibs in tow)...then went back with her mom and left the dad behind...then returned again. I guess the harshness of the Canadian Prairie was too much for my Great Gran at first Gramps was from Saskatchewan. Tough prairie boy. On my dad's side, it's all Scotland...mainly Glasgow, and up in Invergordon area.

Thanks So these old pics were of Canadian places? Good pics though and they certainly have that same look as the 6x9 contact prints in my Dad's album of the late 30s and early 40s taken on his Kodak folder with a reasonable range of apertures and speed for a camera of its day but it had that tiny, difficult viewfinder attached to the lens and that you looked down and into instead of through. What a pain it was to view the scene through!

pentaxuser

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Thanks So these old pics were of Canadian places? Good pics though and they certainly have that same look as the 6x9 contact prints in my Dad's album of the late 30s and early 40s taken on his Kodak folder with a reasonable range of apertures and speed for a camera of its day but it had that tiny, difficult viewfinder attached to the lens and that you looked down and into instead of through. What a pain it was to view the scene through!

pentaxuser

Yes, those early photos were taken around Kamloops, BC, where they moved to and got married, and had my mom, and her two siblings. My mom was born in '42, so she was probably around when most of the pics were taken with this camera. I've got a few negatives of her when she was a toddler. I really need to print those...The Bonnie and Clyde type photo was probably taken by my Grand Dad's older brother. He had money. Owned a confectionery, which was connected to his house. Also owned a taxi co.

 

[DWThomas]

Aha! I too have a Target 620, difference being it was a gift from my parents circa 1950, likely to keep me away from Mom's "folding Kodak!" It still works -- they got their money's worth! I ran some respooled Delta 100 through it in 2008 when I put that web page up.

 

[mshchem]

Good motivation for me to dig out a couple of these things. Thanks for the video!

 

[lamerko]

Why didn't you just trim the 120 roll - it's fast and no rewinding required

 

[Donald Qualls]

Why didn't you just trim the 120 roll - it's fast and no rewinding required

Not all 620 cameras will accept a trimmed 120 supply, and you still need a 620 for takeup in almost all. Respooling means 100% compatibility, providing you're proficient in respooling.

 

[John Wiegerink]

Not all 620 cameras will accept a trimmed 120 supply, and you still need a 620 for takeup in almost all. Respooling means 100% compatibility, providing you're proficient in respooling.

+1. I lived and learned this the hard way.
I still have my father's Target Six-16 it was the family camera that took my first baby picture almost 75 years ago. I'll pass it on to my oldest son, but when I'm gone he'll probably toss it.

 

[glbeas]

I have a very similar camera that belonged to my mother. I shot one roll of film in it before she died, got some nice shots of her with it.

 

[John Wiegerink]

Gary,
That is so cool to be able to take a picture of a departed loved one with their own camera. I never took one of my father with his handed down Six-16, but sure wish I would have now. I was far too busy shooting all those fancy new-fang dangled cameras that I owned. Those old single element lenses sure could set the mood that's for sure.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Why didn't you just trim the 120 roll - it's fast and no rewinding required

Not doable with this camera. I initially tried this as this is what I do to get a 120 roll to fit in my Hawkeye.

 

[John Wiegerink]

Not doable with this camera. I initially tried this as this is what I do to get a 120 roll to fit in my Hawkeye.

Andy is right, all film chambers in cameras are not created equal. I've tried the nail clipper trick a couple of times and gave up. One was with my Kodak Medalist and the other was a Kodak Six-20 Monitor. I found respelling the best way to go and when you get used to it it's pretty painless.

 

[Donald Qualls]

FWIW re: trimmed 120 in a 620 camera, my Reflex II is fine with a carefully trimmed 120 supply, and one of my Brownie Hawkeye Flash examples will take trimmed 120 (the other won't, and the earliest ones with metal film advance knob could use 120 on both ends despite being marked for "620 only"). I haven't checked any of my other 620 cameras recently.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Took Grandpa's Six-20 out again, but this time with a roll of Delta 3200...

 

[John Wiegerink]

Took Grandpa's Six-20 out again, but this time with a roll of Delta 3200...

Andy,
Did you have any fogging by not covering the red window? That's pretty sensitive film and I was just wondering. Probably slight overcast helped. I think these old cameras with meniscus lenses would be ideal for infrared film, but a tripod would be a must.
You have inspired me again Andy. I have my big Cyclone No.5 loaded with some HP5+ and when we have some sun I'm going to take it out for a short spin. No red window to worry about since it's a falling plate and a nice dreamy achromatic meniscus lens. Not a single element lens, but it still has that same output look. Life sure used to be a lot simpler back when these cameras were used.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Andy,
Did you have any fogging by not covering the red window? That's pretty sensitive film and I was just wondering. Probably slight overcast helped. I think these old cameras with meniscus lenses would be ideal for infrared film, but a tripod would be a must.
You have inspired me again Andy. I have my big Cyclone No.5 loaded with some HP5+ and when we have some sun I'm going to take it out for a short spin. No red window to worry about since it's a falling plate and a nice dreamy achromatic meniscus lens. Not a single element lens, but it still has that same output look. Life sure used to be a lot simpler back when these cameras were used.

Hi John,

The Sun was out at times, and was very intense. I was careful to not let it hit the red window, directly. No fogging. Since there is no way to attach the camera to a tripod (unless I bungee it to my tripod ), I will have to rest it on the tripod, like in the previous video with the slower film. Maybe I'll zap strap it to the tripod

 

[John Wiegerink]

Hi John,

The Sun was out at times, and was very intense. I was careful to not let it hit the red window, directly. No fogging. Since there is no way to attach the camera to a tripod (unless I bungee it to my tripod ), I will have to rest it on the tripod, like in the previous video with the slower film. Maybe I'll zap strap it to the tripod

Wow, sun out and no fog with a 3200(1000) ISO film! That's pretty good. I've had problems with old Kodak folders and fog when the red window wasn't covered with black electrical tape. I think the folders problems stem from lack of a real pressure plate, but could be wrong.
No tripod mount is a problem and it showed in some of my father's Target Six-16 photos. His excuse for blurry shots was, "That's one your mother took". Then the argument would start.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

"That's one your mother took". Then the argument would start.