How come the HD movies(shot on film) i see on my computer have very less noise?
I had always thought that though scanning doesn't "increase" grain per se, severe noise was an aliasing artifact caused by a mismatch between the scanning frequency and the grain frequency, and thus ought to be treatable with an optical low pass filter just below the scanner's Nyquist frequency, which I assume is not implemented in consumer scanners for cost reasons?
Cant the same paper used in the digital minilabs be used for making prints with the enlarger the traditional way? I am afraid i may not get the traditional paper here. I havent tried though!
Sometimes you can increase the graininess with poor development. Going from 100 degrees in the developer to 62 degrees in the bleach can cause "reticulation" where the emulsion cracks slightly, which can look like grain.
You cannot judge the graininess of color negative film from a scan. Some scanners reduce grain electronically (also reducing sharpness.) Also, scanning color negative film introduces grain to the image. I cannot tell you why, but when I scan my color negatives I say "oh my that's grainy; I should switch to digital" and when I print the negatives in the darkroom even very large I say "wow that looks nice. Now I remember why I shoot film." For some reason scanners make color negative film look grainy. I've printed 400 speed color negative film at 11x14 with very tolerable pleasant looking grain in the darkroom; the same film is almost intolerable scanned.
I have much better luck scanning prints than scanning film, especially when it comes to grain. Here is a comparison image of a 35mm color slide. I scanned the right side of the image with my Epson V500 at 6400dpi. The left side, I made a 4x5 internegative, contact printed it, and scanned the 4x5 print on the same scanner. It's disappointing that I get better results doing this even through 2 enlarger lenses than straight off the scanner.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/daravon/sharp.jpg
Use it in place of photographic paper in an enlarger setup.. enlarger lens would only need to resolve ~600 effective dpi at the print size for very nice digital enlargements..
Sorry to revive an old thread but did anyone ever try to dissmantal a scanner and use it in place of paper.
Hi there! I shoot 35mm and C-41.
I have few questions regarding grain.....and its relationship towards film development.
So my question is.....does under/improper development lead to more graininess?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/3439836052_132c8c44f3_o.jpg
1/1000 sec, F5.6
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3442231628_914f8c37cf_b.jpg
1/125 sec, F4.5
Both the pics are shot at the same focal length and same film brand but processed by different minilabs.
(please see the large size picture)
The bokeh in the first pic is very grainy(see the front tyre, its not even circular)! whereas the second pic bokeh is smooth like digital. I dont get it....WHY?????
If it is uneven development/improper development then a better method like using a brush to move over the film for more even development solve the problem?
Grainy skies are another headache/mystery!
Sorry to revive an old thread but did anyone ever try to dissmantal a scanner and use it in place of paper.
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