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I just acquired a Super D on CL. It has two minor issues I was hoping for some help with. Firstly the camera is functioning almost perfectly. The shutter is in great shape and works smoothly. The condition is much better than I expected. The two minor issues are the shutter release sometimes doesn't release, the mirror releases but it doesn't release the shutter. A tiny nudge of the mirror trigger? then will release it. The other issue is with the lens. The auto diaphragm catch is super hair trigger. The slightest shake of the camera releases it. The catch when set then backs off about 2mm releasing the diaphragm. I'd like to do the repair myself. Since it's otherwise working great I don't want to take it too far with disassembly if unnecessary to fix these issues.
Thanks for any tips, diagrams etc..
One other thing. Does anyone make a replacement leather handle with brackets? Mine is missing.
Greg
 

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hi greg:

when you push the shutter lever does it not release the mirror? or is the mirror sticking ?
or the shutter not releasing?

about a year ( maybe less ) after i bought my series D i bought a carcass / parts hog from a guy named cliff, and
one of the first things i had to do was remove the shutter release and replace it with a different one. mine was sticking like yours.
i also replaced the "catch" that held the mirror in place because it was wonky too. i am guessing i didn't need to replace these 2 things
and it was a bit drastic but there was not much internet, and no help to speak of ...
my poor advice would be to remove the lens board and graflock back so you can look inside.
put the T lever on, so you don't trip the shutter, just drop the mirror and see if you can see what is actually going on. it might just need some
lubricant ( not sure which one, i have used barely a drop of clock oil on a tooth pick )
i am sure shutterfinger will provide you with better answers than i have ..

have fun with your new camera !
 
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Thanks. I'll take a look inside. One thing I notice is if I set the camera upside down on a surface and wind and fire it works perfectly? The mirror releases when upright but the shutter doesn't without bumping the mirror return lever.
 

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With the lens board removed trip the shutter, does the mirror frame lip go flush with the top of the light path or does it stop a short distance from the top?
Is the I/T selector on the H lever fully in the I Position?
If the selector is fully in the I position how much further does the M lever have to move to release the shutter?
Is the I/T selector bent?
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No, It stops a little more than half way in it's path.
The I,T lever is not bent. It is fully on I
The M lever needs to move another 4mm measured at the tip closest to contact point for the I lever, maybe even less than that.
 
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No, It stops a little more than half way in it's path.
The M lever needs to move another 4mm measured at the tip closest to contact point for the I lever, maybe even less than that.
When you push the mirror up does the shutter release?
If not how far does the M lever need to move to trip the shutter with the mirror up against the top of the light path?
 
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Yes, If you move the mirror up, all it takes is a gentle nudge btw and it goes up and the shutter releases.
 

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Yes, If you move the mirror up, all it takes is a gentle nudge btw and it goes up and the shutter releases.
Excellent!
What I want you to try first is increasing the tension on the mirror spring. On the left side of the camera (shutter release side) there is a round plate with 3 screws in line with the H lever center.
With the mirror in released remove any 2 screws of the 3 on the plate, block the plate from moving by putting a small drill bit in one of the two screw holes, remove the third screw, usung an adjustable spanner, small needle nose pliers or similar turn the plate clockwise until the mirror is full up then continue advancing until the screw holes line up then reinstall the screws and test.
If that does not work then release the tension, remove the plate and spring paying attention to the springs orientation then swap ends with the spring so that the end that was in the mirror shaft is now in the slot of the plate. Most plates have two slots for the spring end. Only one combination of spring end and slot will work.

The body is Mahogany which is soft and strips out easily. To fix a striped screw hole, cut the end off a round wood toothpick so that it fits snugly in the hole, dip the trimed end in wood glue then press into the stripped hole and cut flush with the case. Let the glue set 5 to 10 minutes then make start hole in the center of the dowel and start the screw. You will have to drill a start hole if the glue dries completely as the dowel (toothpick) will be very hard.

The camera serial number is behind the view hood along the top, it is six digits.

The handle is riveted on via straps at each end. Remove one lower view hood brace retainer bracket screw and loosen the other one 1/2 turn, pull the loose end of the bracket outward then slide the view hood brace from under the other bracket. The view hood should release from the view screen easily, sit the view hood in a safe place. Drill out the flanged end of the rivets or cut them off with a rotary tool and cut off wheel. Use a pin punch and drive the rivets out of the view hood door supporting it to prevent breakage. Save any parts of the handle retainer strap and the flat washers. I get leather scraps from a local Tandy Leather store and cut a new handle from scratch. The origonal handle has 3 layers, base, center that is shorter and tapered for the finger area, and a top piece the full length with all 3 stiched together. A single layer of 1/8 inch leather is adaquate. The retainer straps are pieces of leather that go over the handle and allow the handle to slide under them without allowing the flared ends to come out from under them.
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Or try a premade luggage/trunk handle from http://www.brettunsvillage.com/trunks/howto/parts/handles/
A TH2 or TH13 may work.
Replace the rivets with #2 Brass screws and nuts and reuse the origonal flat washers.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Machine_screws_Slotted_round_head_Brass_2-56.aspx
They will need to be 5/8 inch long or longer cut down once installed.
Assembly of the view hood is reverse of removal.
 
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Great! Thanks so much for your help.You're the best! I'll give this a try. So far i've only found one stripped screw. I'll do your toothpick fix on it.
 
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Fixed! it only took turning the mirror tension plate one screw hole to do it. Thanks again Shutterfinger. BTW does your moniker refer to the rawness one gets on the tip of your finger from repeated windings of a Graflex shutter when working on it? Sorta like tennis elbow?

Now to decide. Which do I keep the Super D or the Speed Graphic.....
 

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Does the H lever set easily? It should and if so someone set the mirror tension with the mirror down and latched.
BTW does your moniker refer to the rawness one gets on the tip of your finger from repeated windings of a Graflex shutter when working on it? Sorta like tennis elbow?
You'll eventully get calluses and it will no longer be a problem.
Always return the tension to its lowest setting for storage/non use.
 
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Thanks again. Will do. Yes, the H lever sets easily. Going to load up some holders and shoot some pics tomorrow.
All the best
Greg
 
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