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Very interesting thread. Today I learned, I still don't fully understand/comprehend the zone system...need a book for dummies I think. Ansel Adam discusses it at length in The Negative (IIRC??) and it threw me for a loop as that was one of the first books I read on photography. My attention to metering a subject/area is poor and really lacking, something I need to strengthen and work on.

I also learned that D76 is fine and I can continue using it for many years. Have enjoyed it so far so why not keep it going. I need to use the search bar though and read up on the general consensus of Tri-X and HP5+...been a Tri-X man, while my dad solely shoots on Delta 100. I have shot HP5+ before, but in my photographic infancy I rarely see differences. I mean many of you can look at a negative scan and know, "should have developed for 15% longer", etc etc. It is sort of like my taste for red-wine, while the gf and I love it I rarely note the grapefruit, blackberry, and hint of cinnamon.

And lastly I learned that I still don't have the full understanding of film speeds and developing. For instance the other day I had two rolls of Tri-X 400, shot at 1600. I couldn't, in my head, think if that meant I was going to develop for longer or shorter period of time...had to use the chart, was pretty embarrassed to myself. :confused:

Moral of the post: Learned a lot, have a lot to learn, and these threads are often very informative...even though opinions vary that is the beauty of it all, doing what you enjoy.
 
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appletree,

I wouldn't feel bad about that. Sometimes I feel like the more I know the less I know, because I question more things the more I know.

It takes a while to find something you like, and whatever system you use for metering and developing, in the end it's all about looking at the results and learning how to adjust to get what we want.

If I were you I would just continue shooting Tri-X. You will find no advantage with HP5+, even though there are slight differences. They are just a little bit different from one another, not enough to truly matter. My reason for choosing HP5+ was that I've spent nearly all my film dollars with Kodak and Agfa. Time to spend some on Ilford. :smile:

The Zone System is a good way to find a working method with a system that is consistent. I can't be bothered with it myself; it's just too much work for something I feel I don't really need. Others will disagree and say it's essential to their work flow. I think it depends on how you shoot, what format, and how quickly you need to be ready.
 
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Appletree,

On being told to shoot Portra 400 at 200, I miscalculated. And shoot at 800/1600 instead. Didn't really pay attention to the gaffe until film arrived back to me.

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Thomas,
Thanks for the insightful view and opinion. Appreciate your response...have a nice weekend.
Likewise....I've generally used PMK/PCAT for the last 20 odd years, though I also like Barry Thornton's 2B formula and Rodinal for certain films/looks [went through a real Rodinal phase in the late 90s:wink:]. Everyone should own BT's Edge of Darkness IMO.
 
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