Gold Leica - If you have $20,000

[Huss]

If I were to get a $20,000 bling camera it would a gold plated Alpa 11.

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See, that is how I expect gold plate to look - all shiny. The Leica gold finish is matte, which makes me think it is gold paint - as in paint with some gold in it. The M4-2 that I linked to - on the ebay ad where the pics are more detailed - you can see the finish has worn off around the camera base key. And it looks silver underneath (zinc? chrome?) Plating would not do that.

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[madNbad]

All Leica M cameras use brass bottom plates. When the move to zinc for the top plates, they experimented with using zinc for the bottom plate but found the hinge wouldn’t stand up to the stress and would crack or sometimes just break off. It’s gold plating, just not Alpha quality gold plating.

 

[mshchem]

Twenty grand? 10 ounces of actual gold bullion, no sales tax.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

At KEH

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For people with more money than brains!

 

[jgoody]

Looks like Saddam Hussein's cameras.

Perfect description!

 

[eli griggs]

Just another knock around camera for the hunting/fishing car glove box, that never gets locked.
;-)

 

[Steven Lee]

For people with more money than brains!

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[mshchem]

During 2019-21 collectible camera gear had higher ROI than many investment vehicles. Some wealth management software systems have a feature to treat exotic collectibles as an asset class. No different from stocks, cash, precious metals, old wine and art pieces. You don't even need to see or touch them. There are consultants that will manage these items for you stored in air controlled and heavily protected hangars at some international airports to keep them outside of any country's jurisdiction.

Sounds like a bunch of crooks. Probably what my wife buys in her Roth IRA.

 

[snusmumriken]

So tacky. Would you actually admit to owning that Leica?

Bit of black tape and it’d be fine.

 

[Cholentpot]

Perfect description!

Wonder if he had a gold plated SCUD...

 

[Huss]

All Leica M cameras use brass bottom plates. When the move to zinc for the top plates, they experimented with using zinc for the bottom plate but found the hinge wouldn’t stand up to the stress and would crack or sometimes just break off. It’s gold plating, just not Alpha quality gold plating.

I dont like the gold plated look, but at least on the Alpa it looks like it was done right, if that’s your thing.
But perhaps Leica uses that matte finish so it can be used as a camera, instead of blinding you if you try use it in sunlight? Then again, they don’t seem to care whether their cameras scratch film or not, so doubtful.

 

[Kodachromeguy]

If I were to get a $20,000 bling camera it would a gold plated Alpa 11.

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Alpas are perpetually popular among collectors. I have read that the cameras were immaculately machined, and the lenses were among the very best form various European lens companies. But I do not recall ever reading of photographers who used Alpa cameras. I have never seen one in the field. What is the story (if any)?

 

[Paul Howell]

Although not a rangefinder, well the very early Alpa's had both SLR and a rangefinder, the later models were just too expensive for most working photographers, but were more popular with scientist for field work. There was an American photographer who used to cover U.S space shoots, he had the electro mechanical motor drive. When a working PJ I only knew of one guy who shot with 2 Alpas Neil Heart(?) who worked for a German newspaper chain. Last I saw him in the early 80s he had moved on to Canon F1s. Alpa not only contracted with Kern, Delft, Schneider and Angenieux, Alpa also bought from Zoomar and Pentax. Also Modern and Popular reviewers were not too found of Alpa. The film advance is just very odd, and lacked the features that were common on pro level system cameras like Nikon and Canon like interchangeable viewfinder and focusing screens and handheld motor drives. I have friend who wife inherited a 11e, he sent it to me to go over it. Yes the wind is very odd, but once I got use to it, smooth, some of the movements were jeweled and Kern Swiss, 50mm macro what a lens. Last was there very sellers and the camera had to be sent back to the home office for repairs, only a few US repair techs would even do a CLA. You can a review in Modern Photo here.

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[Sirius Glass]

See, that is how I expect gold plate to look - all shiny. The Leica gold finish is matte, which makes me think it is gold paint - as in paint with some gold in it. The M4-2 that I linked to - on the ebay ad where the pics are more detailed - you can see the finish has worn off around the camera base key. And it looks silver underneath (zinc? chrome?) Plating would not do that.

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I would rather have blue leather on my Hasselblads.

 

[Huss]

I would rather have blue leather on my Hasselblads.

There is a blue leather w gold metal edging Hasselblad anniversary edition. It actually looks gorgeous.

 

[Huss]

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[BHuij]

This camera wasn't made to appeal to photographers, it was made to appeal to rich camera collectors. Of course the average Photrio user will immediately write it off as absurd at this price point.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I would rather have blue leather on my Hasselblads.

There is a blue leather w gold metal edging Hasselblad anniversary edition. It actually looks gorgeous.

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For $20,000US I could buy two and shoot in stereo, but where would the speakers be?

 

[Huss]

This camera wasn't made to appeal to photographers, it was made to appeal to rich camera collectors. Of course the average Photrio user will immediately write it off as absurd at this price point.

Which camera are you talking about?

 

[snusmumriken]

I was just thinking that if rarity enhances value, the ‘small batch’ of new M6s that scratch film might be worth lotsa money one day…

 

[BHuij]

Which camera are you talking about?

...the uh, $20,000 limited edition gold Leica. That one.

 

[GregY]

$20,000. that's a lot of scratch ;-)

 

[reddesert]

See, that is how I expect gold plate to look - all shiny. The Leica gold finish is matte, which makes me think it is gold paint - as in paint with some gold in it. The M4-2 that I linked to - on the ebay ad where the pics are more detailed - you can see the finish has worn off around the camera base key. And it looks silver underneath (zinc? chrome?) Plating would not do that.

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Gold plate can be finished in a burnished or satin finish that isn't shiny (I imagine if anyone actually used the shiny camera, it would no longer be shiny). Also, I think the usual method of gold plating brass is to put on a very thin silver plate first, then gold - maybe the gold doesn't adhere directly. When it wears at use areas, you may see the underlying plating. I've read about this in the context of gold plate finished musical instruments, which can look really nice, though I've never seen one up close in person.

You can lacquer brass so it looks gold. That is the usual and more economical way that brass instruments (and doorknobs, etc) are finished, but it doesn't look like gold plate when it wears. I don't think this camera is gold paint. I wouldn't actually want a gold plated camera, but I would take a gold plated saxophone off your hands if necessary.

 

[Huss]

Gold plate can be finished in a burnished or satin finish that isn't shiny (I imagine if anyone actually used the shiny camera, it would no longer be shiny). Also, I think the usual method of gold plating brass is to put on a very thin silver plate first, then gold - maybe the gold doesn't adhere directly. When it wears at use areas, you may see the underlying plating. I've read about this in the context of gold plate finished musical instruments, which can look really nice, though I've never seen one up close in person.

You can lacquer brass so it looks gold. That is the usual and more economical way that brass instruments (and doorknobs, etc) are finished, but it doesn't look like gold plate when it wears. I don't think this camera is gold paint. I wouldn't actually want a gold plated camera, but I would take a gold plated saxophone off your hands if necessary.

Thanks. I don't like the look on either camera, but at least the Alpa to me looks like it really is gold plated! The gold plating on the Leica looks like paint to me.

 

[Huss]

...the uh, $20,000 limited edition gold Leica. That one.

asked because the Hasselblad was thrown into the mix.

That $20K KEH Leica is available at a bunch of other places for $6-$8K. I'd hate to be the sucker customer who bought if from KEH, only to find that out later!