If you are not a good skier it might be useful to an underwatr camera
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Going Skiing. Which Camera?
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The Isolette is only 2x the weight of Minox.
Sorry, I was under the influence of alcohol when I wrote that post and had a hard time converting grams to pounds. In fact, my calculation error was off by a good margin: the Isolette weighs 1 lb 4 oz (around 500 g).
Still, the Minox weighs 180g, a little over a third of the weight of the Isolette.
For the sake of completeness, the lightest of the Rollei 35 models, the 35 B, weighs 240 g.
One cited advantage of the Minox over the Rollei is the drawbridge lens cover that, when closed, makes the front of the camera very smooth, so it's easy to get in and out of a pocket — which also means it can slip out of the pocket by accident! The Rollei has a collapsible lens.
I like this idea, being that it folds it takes up less space, and if you fall it would be nicer to fall on a relatively flat folder than a camera with an extended lens.
Whatever you do don't use a Minolta Hi-Matic F. A few weeks ago I found out the hard way that the shutter doesn't work in the cold. It seemed like a great camera for snowboarding. It's a small rangefinder and it's cheap, but a blank roll of film was all I got. After I shot the roll I checked the shutter in both warm and cold conditions and sure enough it works fine if it's warm but doesn't work in the cold. I have had problems with shutters in cold weather with other cameras as well. One that comes to mind is my Zorki I, the shutter curtain got hung up at the end of it's pass so everything was overexposed on one side. It works fine in warm weather. That could be due to hardened grease in the mechanism.
If you want to shoot medium format you may want to consider an old Kodak folder. The shutters may not be perfectly accurate but they are pretty bulletproof. They are cheap and they will fold up nice and small and smooth in your pocket. No lenses protruding out to get damaged or poke you in the gut. The only thing you may need to be concerned about is how the bellows will do in the cold but I don't think that would be a problem. Whatever you do you may want to test it in cold weather.
One that I did purchase about 25 years ago for snowboarding was an Olympus Stylus Zoom DLX. It's water resistant so you don't have to worry about it getting wet and it's very small and has auto focus. It never gave me any trouble in the cold when it was new but I haven't taken it snowboarding for a long time. I may take it with me the next time I go.
Olympus Stylus Zoom DLX by Bryan Chernick, on Flickr
If you want to shoot medium format you may want to consider an old Kodak folder. The shutters may not be perfectly accurate but they are pretty bulletproof. They are cheap and they will fold up nice and small and smooth in your pocket. No lenses protruding out to get damaged or poke you in the gut. The only thing you may need to be concerned about is how the bellows will do in the cold but I don't think that would be a problem. Whatever you do you may want to test it in cold weather.
One that I did purchase about 25 years ago for snowboarding was an Olympus Stylus Zoom DLX. It's water resistant so you don't have to worry about it getting wet and it's very small and has auto focus. It never gave me any trouble in the cold when it was new but I haven't taken it snowboarding for a long time. I may take it with me the next time I go.
Olympus Stylus Zoom DLX by Bryan Chernick, on Flickr
A lot of cameras do not work well in the cold, especially if they were not winterized or depend too heavily on batteries.
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On my beginner ski camping trips I carried an 8x10 camera and big Ries wooden tripod, plus all the other gear. Like a truck out of control
looking for the emergency offramp at times. But oh those shots came out so nice! On longer outings I carried something nice and petite instead, namely my Sinar 4x5 equipped with 28 inches of bellow and twelve filmholders. Somehow I kept the pack slightly under a hundred pounds, though the nice thing about winter camping is that you can carry things like T-bone steaks and pop-can frozen biscuits. My nephew overheated his white gas Primus stove the next morning and burned six of the biscuits. So he tossed those over a big cliff we were camped beside. Later that day, on the way back, when we were only about a mile from the truck, six crows passed overhead, each with a burnt
biscuit in its mouth!
looking for the emergency offramp at times. But oh those shots came out so nice! On longer outings I carried something nice and petite instead, namely my Sinar 4x5 equipped with 28 inches of bellow and twelve filmholders. Somehow I kept the pack slightly under a hundred pounds, though the nice thing about winter camping is that you can carry things like T-bone steaks and pop-can frozen biscuits. My nephew overheated his white gas Primus stove the next morning and burned six of the biscuits. So he tossed those over a big cliff we were camped beside. Later that day, on the way back, when we were only about a mile from the truck, six crows passed overhead, each with a burnt
biscuit in its mouth!
Some times Drew's comments just sleigh me. ROTHFLMAO
So I have been told. When one could get film for it I had a Fisher Price 110 camera that took sharp photographs and was easy to carry skiing.
+1 - and FPP has a bunch of 110 stocks!
I leave for Winter Park on Thursday for a week of skiing.
It is not a point & shot and it may not meet your budget constraint but a Nikonos can handle the cold and the snow.
Nikonos III by Narsuitus, on Flickr
Nikonos III by Narsuitus, on Flickr
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More for the photographs to be honest! I do enjoy skiing, but I'm going for my cousin's bachelor party. I would never set out to go there just to ski - just to take pictures, I definitely would!
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I'm no pro skier, but definitely getting wet? How do you figure? It will be in my internal jacket pocket, and if I do fall (which will likely not happen very often) it won't occur in a pool! (I hope...). The only way it would be exposed to some moisture is thru my body heat. Is that what you meant?
I'm an advanced skier (or I used to be, but living in Florida has probably had an impact), and things get wet from snow when you're out there, unless you're sticking to the bunny slope. Snow gets on your clothing, inside your gloves, inside your boots, etc., and melts. It just seems that everything gets wet to some degree when you're skiing. Not to mention if you keep the camera warm, then bring it out into the cold, potential for condensation will be high.
Personally, and I know I'll get chastised for this, I would look at one of the all weather Nikon or Olympus non-analog cameras. They are flat, can handle the weather (whatever it may be when you're up there), can probably be handled with gloves on, are lightweight, and won't hurt you if you fall on them.
If you're going skiing to have fun, then enjoy the moment, and be in it. The camera should really be only secondary to, and enhance the memories of the experience. Lugging around a MF or even a 35mm that will get in the way, potentially get damaged, and will require fiddling around with, detracts from the experience, IMO.
Not to mention, think of how long it'll take to stop, take off your gloves, open your outer jacket, get the camera, make your adjustments, take the photo, then put it back, close up the jacket(s), put your gloves back on, and then get going again. Get something you can stick in your outer jacket pocket, and grab the snaps that you want. Snaps are what you'll be getting, unless the purpose of the skiing trip is really a photography trip up to the top of a snowy mountain, snapshots are all you'll need. There will most likely be tons of people on the slopes, and majestic landscapes and the like will (unfortunately) not be likely captures.
I'm sure it would vary between individual cameras but the coldest I've used mine so far is about - 25 C. No problems.
Of all the cameras I own I would choose the Olympus stylus zoom 80. You wont need a fast lens in the snow so the zoom would be ok. Its worry free.
If you want filters bring a few cheap nikon L35 AF type p&s that have filter rings. If they break or get wet take another out of the suitcase.
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If you want filters bring a few cheap nikon L35 AF type p&s that have filter rings. If they break or get wet take another out of the suitcase.
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When I first started getting really good at skiing I would use a pack and take my Minolta SLR with the f/2.8 21mm [talk about a large heavy lens], a 28mm, a 50mm and a 70mm to 210mm zoom lens. After a few years I figured out that it was uncomfortable with the pack on the chair lift, the pack weight was throwing off my skiing and local photographers could do a much better job of finding the best locations than I ever would. Now I take the camera with me to take photographs when I am not skiing. Some times when we are young we are not nearly as smart as we think we are.
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I'd rather give up the skis than my view camera, and frankly, didn't want to have to sell the camera in order to purchase a wheelchair. So
yeah, I'll confess ... I converted to snowshoes. The other problem with skis is that it's hard to get your tripod up close to a rock or something without taking the skis off, and then, down you go, bloop into the snow. Or else the tripod keeps sinking. Snowshoes are a lot easier to tamp
a shooting platform down with. But given the fact that I've had snow every single "summer" vacation for the last five years, I'm glad that I
went to Hawaii this winter instead back to the hills here. I grew up in the mountains and have tromped hundreds of miles in the snow. It can
be found somewhere up there anytime of year, but only if one is worthy of it. Approach reverently, always with an 8x10....
yeah, I'll confess ... I converted to snowshoes. The other problem with skis is that it's hard to get your tripod up close to a rock or something without taking the skis off, and then, down you go, bloop into the snow. Or else the tripod keeps sinking. Snowshoes are a lot easier to tamp
a shooting platform down with. But given the fact that I've had snow every single "summer" vacation for the last five years, I'm glad that I
went to Hawaii this winter instead back to the hills here. I grew up in the mountains and have tromped hundreds of miles in the snow. It can
be found somewhere up there anytime of year, but only if one is worthy of it. Approach reverently, always with an 8x10....
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