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Thomas, after the pinch, mix ingredients in order of their listing...Evan Clarke
 
Hi Evan, thanks for helping out! But then I am adding the rest of the sodium sulfite next, which it tells me not to do. Or do I not add the rest of the sodium sulfite? It's first on the list.

- Thomas
 
OOPs, I make this quite a bit and was trolling from memory. This formula is not in order, it goes: the pinch of Sulfite, te Metol and then the gross amount of Sulfite..Sorry...Evan
 
:smile: Thank you for getting me the right order!

- Thomas
 
Germain Finegrain


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I use this full strength. My normal time in a Jobo for TMY is 6"30" @68 deg. F, water stop, fixed in Hypam 1+4, washed. This pulls highlights down quite nicely with minus development and is responsible for about 70% of all my film development...Evan Clarke

Evan,

Do you replenish Germain? If you do, how do you?

I recently mixed some and was quite happy with it using eastman XX cine film. However, because there are specific replenishment schedules worked out by Ed Lowe, I converted to Edwal 12, which differs from Germain very little -- only in the proportions of the three reducing agents, which are the same ones. Lowe suggests 3 ounces per 60 square inches; seems to work well. I suspect a similar schedule might work with Germain's version. I'm interested in your use with contractions; Lowe developed E12 for flat light, and it has a reputation of not working well for contractions.
 
When I mixed up some FX-2 I put the Glycin in before the Sodium Sulfite. Of course it didn't dissolve. When I realized my mistake I added the Sodium Sulfite and the Glycin instantly dissolved.
 
Just to give this a kick along (it's a very interesting thread) - has anyone seen or tried Voightlander 222? It looks similar but even more dilute than Dan's offering.
I have been tempted to try it with microfilm, as at pictorial exposure these films are really 'under-exposed'! Also, as a 'frugal' photographer, anything that is 99.1% water, HAS to be good! (if it works, of course!).
VOIGHTLANDER 222 (From Phot-O-Vergne Wiki)
Na SO3 (sec) 1 gm
Na CO3 (sec) 6 gm
Glycin 2 gm
Water to 1 litre
Times vary from 12-15 mins for over-exposed negative to 60-120 mins for under-exposed negatives. http://www.photocrack.com/photovergne_wiki/index.php/VOIGHTLANDER_222

From danqu TP-78, a film developer formulated for Tech Pan and similar high contrast slow speed films.
In this order;
NaSO3 1.5 grams,
glycin 3 grams
NaCO3 3 grams
A less sulfited, less carbonated version of D-78.
 
It is interesting to note that the 1929 BJP speaks of Glycin only as a film developer.
 
Evan,

Do you replenish Germain? If you do, how do you?

I recently mixed some and was quite happy with it using eastman XX cine film. However, because there are specific replenishment schedules worked out by Ed Lowe, I converted to Edwal 12, which differs from Germain very little -- only in the proportions of the three reducing agents, which are the same ones. Lowe suggests 3 ounces per 60 square inches; seems to work well. I suspect a similar schedule might work with Germain's version. I'm interested in your use with contractions; Lowe developed E12 for flat light, and it has a reputation of not working well for contractions.


Sorry I missed this post/ didn't reply. I don't replenish and find that the shadows come up pretty quick allowing for ease in pulling the highlights. It's easy to knock a stop off the highlights with no adverse effects and rotary development...EC
 
i've been using ansco 130 for film off and on for 10+ years.
sometimes i stand develop in it, sometimes i tray process sheets in it ...
i have never had trouble and always gotten great negatives when using it
 
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