Level playing fields are very difficult to find. I can't think of one; can you?
Yet he still became famous - think what would happened to a nearly blind black person or women of the same era who wanted to be a painter. I am sure there were many, but we never heard about them. Max Geller is clearly smarter then some.He was losing his sight when most of his famous paintings were made. In addition during his last years he struggled with severe arthritis in his hands. So bad that he could no longer grasp the brushes and they had to be tied to his hands.
Let's be practical. Now that the alleged bias has been "analysed", what is the next step? To condemn the majority's attitude is one thing, to find a possible solution is another thing.
...Let the market place decide. ...
With the advent of the internet anyone can self-publish their work. A gallery or museum is not needed. So in reality quotas are a solution in search of a problem. Any person or group that thinks their work is under-represented can hold their own show on the web. Post necessary information on social media. The ultimate in fairness.
The "market place" is run and dominated by white men.
The "market place" is run and dominated by white men.
The "market place" is run and dominated by white men. They decide all too well as we have seen in the history up to now.
Social media has built in gender biases - male nipples - OK, female nipples - DIRTY, etc., and more and more.
CatLABS,
I don't think most of us disagree that bias exists.
I think part of the issue in these threads stems from methodology - hey, we've a bunch of techies here, so it is natural to want some real statistics, not mathematical averages or opinion pieces. This is why some cry out for peer-reviewed journal articles/research. This sentiment also occurs in threads about the Zone System, ISO v. EI, etc. Some people want numbers, and want them to be obtained through scientific methods.
I feel another part of the issue is how much of a disproportionate number is attributed to bias and how much to other factors. For example, in an hypothetical situation with a population ratio of majority to minority of, say, 4:1, then a 4:1 representation in a field/discipline would be considered equal. Larger or smaller ratios would then require prejudice to be teased apart from other possible factors.
Yet another part, in my opinion, is pre-deciding that anyone in a "majority" group is automatically guilty of bias/prejudice, either in practice or through genetic predisposition; holding straight white males accountable for the sins of their fathers, as it were.
A more productive thought may be to agree bias exists, disagree on the percentages, but focus on how we can each do a little to help improve things.
My bank account would seriously disagree with you.
And on the web, it is much easier for "the masses" to buy whatever art they find, many times without having the slightest clue whether the artist is male or female.
The nipple bias you mention is a totally different argument and has more to do with the USA than other countries.
A huge +1 to Truzi's post.
Yet another part, in my opinion, is pre-deciding that anyone in a "majority" group is automatically guilty of bias/prejudice, either in practice or through genetic predisposition; holding straight white males accountable for the sins of their fathers, as it were.
Truzi, thank you for this. This kind of thought is every bit as racist and ugly and despicable.
If this is an ironic joke, it is an excellent one.Making sense is unacceptable as is the listing of factual information. This is the internet gentlemen.
We are several here to come to a similar conclusion as your.
If this is an ironic joke, it is an excellent one.
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