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Like many people here, I'd always been a modest owner of camera gear. I had some nice cameras, but never more than two at a time, and they always took the same lens mount. Then digital arrived and film cameras became worth whatever someone would give for them, which wasn't much for the most part.

Also like other people here, I saw this as my opportunity to try out cameras I'd previously wanted to own, which turned into buying cameras I specifically disliked but were too cheap not to try, then purchasing cult cameras, then each model from a range and so on down the rabbit hole. Like all consumption, the pleasure is in wanting and the satisfaction of owning is generally short lived and ultimately unsatisfying. The unavoidable conclusion from this experiment in acquisition, is most cameras work just fine and it's difficult to tell the output apart, at least between camera formats and lens types. No one is creatively limited by the camera they use.

Someone commented recently that there's more to photography than taking pictures, but if there is I can't see it. I lack the completist gene that finds satisfaction purely in ownership, and view a camera that isn't being used to take photographs a somewhat sad prospect. I imagine their original owners excitedly taking pictures on the first weekend after purchase, and the idea that their object of desire now exists simply to fill a gap in my collection between the Mark IV and the Mark VI model slightly depressing.

One of the problems with photography has always being how to show work. You can make prints and hang them on a wall, or display them to your friends at a photoclub, or try for a show at a gallery. I do hang my framed photographs in my home, but viewers are limited to people who pass through the house and they mostly serve as background. The opinions of photoclub members aren't always well informed or neutral, and galleries generally have a long waiting list and for small venues footfall is limited. The alternatives can lead to a sense of ennui, even pointlessness. Then I discovered the photo book.

For anyone who hasn't made a photobook, the prospect can be daunting. First you have to select images you consider your best, then put them into some kind of order that shows them to advantage or tells a story. You have to work out how you're going to display them, which offers an almost infinite variety of ways, and get on top of the company's software. You can go one to a page, with annotation or without. You can leave facing pages bare, put a series onto a double page spread, have a frame around them or let the shot bleed over the edges. Picture cover or plain? What's your title going to be? The choices are endless and rules are few. For film photographers there's the additional challenge of sc@nning and spotting the shots, and making sure the tones or colours balance across the work. It can be a time consuming business. Last week I spent four days of a holiday compiling and uploading my latest photobook, grabbing a few hours sleep here and there, completely absorbed in the process. The book arrived through the post this morning, four days after I'd pressed send.

People spend far more time looking at a nicely bound, well printed photobook than any print I've made. They don't feel pressured in the same way as a slide show, and can spend as much or as little time on an individual image as they choose. They can take it away to look at if you let them, and if they like it enough you can order one of their own for them. Photobooks can be small or big, cheap or expensive, contain your photographic life's work, or a record of your day. For me, they say more about the state of my photography, where I'm going wrong or hitting the mark, than any other display format I've tried. Photobooks are totally results based, what matters are the images and how well they hang together, the camera they were taken on becomes no more than a tool to produce a tangible and lasting artefact, perhaps even an heirloom.

Photobooks have removed my GAS completely, and replaced in with another obsession, Book Acquisition Syndrome. Compiling photobooks really is very addictive, and much more rewarding than buying another body or lens.
 
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"Gas Cure" by blockend. Very creative!
The attraction of film is it deals in tangible objects, film, chemicals, prints. I'm arguing books are a natural conclusion to the need to have something solid as an end result. Of course it's not the only end, but it's certainly a deferral from endless camera collection, it allows the photographer to control the way their images are seen, and at least in my experience, people understand printed books in a different way from single prints and give them more serious reflection.
 

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Excuse me blockend

First of all, thanks for sharing these thoughts. I can see where the things are going ... anyway

... Someone commented recently that there's more to photography than taking pictures, but if there is I can't see it.

Although it might sound strange I’d like to add that when we blink our eyes we loose that moment, unless we give that order to our memory. In other words, Photographers: we're looking-machines, and all the rest comes next, and that, of course, includes the equipment. To all of us, the first thing is “take” a look, and the final step the “take” itself. It’s just a matter of assessing what it is worthwhile, and that’s a personal choice. Many Photographers decide to appreciate more deeply, or decide to live in the middle part. That's the "more" thing.

One of the problems with photography has always being how to show work. You can make prints and hang them on a wall, or display them to your friends at a photoclub, or try for a show at a gallery. I do hang my framed photographs in my home, but viewers are limited to people who pass through the house and they mostly serve as background. The opinions of photoclub members aren't always well informed or neutral, and galleries generally have a long waiting list and for small venues footfall is limited. The alternatives can lead to a sense of ennui, even pointlessness. Then I discovered the photo book.

"Hanging” the prints (being the final intention) is an “execution”. Now, let’s assume that the truth is that we need to share what we do with others, alright then … wait, that’s the problem.

People spend far more time looking at a nicely bound, well printed photobook than any print I've made. They don't feel pressured in the same way as a slide show, and can spend as much or as little time on an individual image as they choose. They can take it away to look at if you let them, and if they like it enough you can order one of their own for them.

Because, that's the easy way! But things are best enjoyed (and valued) the harder they take.

Photobooks have removed my GAS completely, and replaced in with another obsession, Book Acquisition Syndrome. Compiling photobooks really is very addictive, and much more rewarding than buying another body or lens.

The Cure is "One hand washes the other."

Regards

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Photobooks "self" publishing is waste of time completely for me. Not worth of the money and not related to photography, which is printing by myself in the darkroom. This is where I spend my money now.
But I'm into photography books now as well. From bw old photography masters. Photobooks where scans of old prints are published. I prefer to see their pictures on prints, but I could only afford to have their pictures at home as scans in the books.

One author (his book is biggest I have) has exact description why I'm taking pictures and why I went through cheap.G.A.S. to find my pictures taking needs to be covered by only few expensive tools.
Same as Garry Winogrand, I'm taking pictures because I like to see how it looks on pictures. This is it to me. It is not about showing, not about publishing, but to be able to get the image I'm interested to look at by myself. I have cameras similar to his and now even lens as he used. Not because I'm mimicking him, but because only these tools are allowing me to get photography I like on the prints.

I took +100K pictures. I don't have worth enough for the Book.
 

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blockend,
If you want a challenge, make a book yourself. I've made three. Selecting the images, scanning the negatives, doing the layout, printing on double-sided paper, binding and making the cover including gluing the linen. I used simple tools available in an art supply and Home Depot. Surprisingly they came out quite nice and in themselves are pieces of art (if I must say so myself :D). I followed instructions I found on the internet.

http://www.jeffreyglasser.com/
 

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A thought-provoking thread!

blockend, I appreciate what you're saying about GAS, although at the moment, it's not bothering me. Maybe it's because right from the start, I had this sense that my own collection should be Inexpensive, with an emphasis on Charm, as opposed to Serious, Rare or Ultimate. And I seem particularly drawn to items that no one else seems to want: Somewhere in Russia, a closet or cupboard is tidier thanks to me :laugh:
 

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The book thing isn't a cure for GAS for me- I've got them both. Fortunately the gear collecting has been tempered somewhat on its own by my desire to simplify my shooting style down to just one camera/camera type at a time. I certainly have enough lenses to cover all my medium and large format needs. Books, well... you don't get a 2200 volume library at home (and still growing - I'm out of shelf space in my library AND in the camera room, and in the bedroom!) without some kind of obsession. The books will never stop. I think I just have collectomania - I've got books, antique photos (a modest but interesting selection of cased images, and a rather substantial collection of CDVs, with a major focus on 19th century circus/sideshow personalities), cameras, and fountain pens.
 

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I have a theory that old very high-end film cameras, lenses, etc. will soon be worth far more than the current market bears. I'm basing this on old analog audio equipment that took a steep nosedive when digital took over, then came springing back with a vengeance. You know... high-end LPs in fantastic condition, high-end turntables, pricey reel-to-reel tape recorders, the better tube and non-class-d/g/h amplifiers, etc. Many of these have disappeared so the remaining few are worth their weight in gold to the right aficionados. I'm thinking some collectors in the near future will pay big money for the best of the best analog cameras in excellent to mint condition.

Buy low, sell high.
 

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The most effective cure for GAS is being broke. I've become an expert at that.:wink:
 

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... If you want a challenge, make a book yourself. ...

This is what my aunt has done with a self-published book and what I want to do with my own prints and paper in a book that I make myself.

I have a theory that old very high-end film cameras, lenses, etc. will soon be worth far more than the current market bears.......

I believe you are correct - but I cannot say when "soon" will be. The reason is that the older fully mechanical cameras will be appreciated for their ability to endure.
 

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The only cure for GAS is love of the art itself. If you have the resources/money to buy more gear because it can help you attain something that was previously unattainable with your current gear, BUY IT! If you can't afford it, your limited - yes, limited - to your current gear. GAS for gear acquisition alone, is quite pointless unless you're passionate about collecting. But GAS isn't always hindering and pointless. This being said, In general, I think it's safe to assume that what's in your photography bag right now can tackle 75-95% of your photographic goals.

Perhaps I say this because I'm sometimes interested in:
-Super long tele-photo
-Macro
-Artificial lighting
-Outstanding fidelity
-Multi-format shooting
-Compactness/convenience
 
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I have a theory that old very high-end film cameras, lenses, etc. will soon be worth far more than the current market bears. I'm basing this on old analog audio equipment that took a steep nosedive when digital took over, then came springing back with a vengeance. You know... high-end LPs in fantastic condition, high-end turntables, pricey reel-to-reel tape recorders, the better tube and non-class-d/g/h amplifiers, etc. Many of these have disappeared so the remaining few are worth their weight in gold to the right aficionados. I'm thinking some collectors in the near future will pay big money for the best of the best analog cameras in excellent to mint condition.

Buy low, sell high.
There's evidence collectors will pay big money for high end museum grade film cameras, or ones with an unusual provenance, but I don't think the majority of film cameras will be worth much for a very long time indeed. A battered double stroke Leica M3 owned by a famous photographer is worth more than a mint example that has sat in someone's drawer. The problem for mint condition cameras is that they are unusable without devaluing the object, whereas more typical condition examples can take photographs in practice.

Even if cameras do rise in price, the financial investment and safe storage costs probably won't be realised for many years, and there is risk that the market may tire of vintage cameras and move into other avenues of investment.
 

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Soaking beans in water for some hours before cooking them can help to alleviate what causes GAS
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There's evidence collectors will pay big money for high end museum grade film cameras, or ones with an unusual provenance, but I don't think the majority of film cameras will be worth much for a very long time indeed. A battered double stroke Leica M3 owned by a famous photographer is worth more than a mint example that has sat in someone's drawer. The problem for mint condition cameras is that they are unusable without devaluing the object, whereas more typical condition examples can take photographs in practice.

Even if cameras do rise in price, the financial investment and safe storage costs probably won't be realised for many years, and there is risk that the market may tire of vintage cameras and move into other avenues of investment.

I'm mostly in agreement, but my (admittedly unscientific) impression is that aside from a very tiny number of record-setting sale prices, most Leicas, Nikons and vintage hifi items are getting cheaper, not the other way around. Feeling as if the younger generations may have the interest but they're not as quick to spend a lot of money on their various whims as their parents were. And particularly when inflation is factored in, a lot of Great Investments start to look pretty weak.
 

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Does anyone on APUG own or use just one camera exclusively? If so, I salute you.
 

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Yea, when your bank starts bouncing your'e cheques works wonders as an antidote for G.A.S.

I only write one check per month and only that one because my local water company doesn't accept bank card payments. I pay everything else with a bank card. So I never bounce checks.

But, yes, you get the idea. Having little money does prevent 'most' GAS. :wink:
 

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blockend,
If you want a challenge, make a book yourself. I've made three. Selecting the images, scanning the negatives, doing the layout, printing on double-sided paper, binding and making the cover including gluing the linen. I used simple tools available in an art supply and Home Depot. Surprisingly they came out quite nice and in themselves are pieces of art (if I must say so myself :D). I followed instructions I found on the internet.

http://www.jeffreyglasser.com/

Check out the book, "Various Small Books: Referencing Various Small Books by Ed Ruscha." Jeff Brouws, Wendy Burton, and Hermann Zschiegner, Editors. MIT Press, Cambridge MA, 2013.
 
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Photo books are the future, but it is a little sad because as a photographer you can't sustain a life around them, although it is difficult if not impossible to sustain a life around making pictures in any way these days.

If you want a cure for gas just keep doing photography. You will eventually arrive at the point that you realize it matters very little what camera you use. The real important thing to remember is you are the limitation, not the camera.
 

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If you want a cure for gas just keep doing photography. You will eventually arrive at the point that you realize it matters very little what camera you use. The real important thing to remember is you are the limitation, not the camera.

My bet is that most of us here who own lots of cameras came to that conclusion long ago. Speaking for myself, I have a lot of cameras because I enjoy them as fascinating mechanical objects as well as excellent photographic tools. In addition to cameras, I collect other things as well. I'm not looking for a "cure", as life is short and admiring things such as cameras brings me enjoyment (as well as my ability to make decent photos).
 

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great post blockend:

couldn't agree more with your post. but
i have to admit my GAS peetered out mainly because
i didn't have the excess $ to spend on things.
i tend to use everything that i have, and nice things are usually
beyond my budget so ...

i couldn't agree more, photobooks are a great way of presentation, i love them too ..
i haven't done the electric ones or ones made locally at a copyshop+bindary but i make hand made ones instead.
i've used FB paper as well as prints that were made for me at a lab.
sometimes the FB prints were stitched and turned into the pages of the book
sometimes they were tipped in or die cut corners to slide the images into so they can be removed
( like a scrapbook ) .... coverstock and rag paper can be purchased inexpensively, and book cloth too, paste can be made
with in the cupboard flour and out of the tap water ... and brushed on with a art supply paste brush ...
and books to just be made without paste or glue at all ! ( keith smith's series is fantastic and easy to understand )
there are tutorials on the web about making books too ...

best
john
 

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I've no problem keeping hold of the cameras I rarely, if ever, use. I'm just the guardian of them until my heirs flog off my estate. Although my ghost will be doing some serious haunting if one of my sprogs doesn't keep the Medalist. :smile:

The price has be right and I tend to go for cameras that I either had or lusted after in the 70s plus cameras that my dad probably lusted after when I was a babe but couldn't buy because he was now a family man.

I've been collecting darkroom kit too, mostly accessories I couldn't afford 40 years ago and had to improvise. Latest was a cheapo Kodak dish siphon.
 
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