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Nobody Stone, but many people aren't aware they is more than one Fuji Velvia 100, and get the wrong end of the stick.

I know what you're trying to say but I think it's coming out more confusing.

There are not two Velvia100's

Velvia100 and Velvia100f are completely different films, just that part of the name is similar.

I think the ONLY confusing thing is that "f" seems to stand for FINE, as in fine grain, which gives the illusion that Velvia100f would be the finer version of Velvia100, which isn't really true in this case. It's a fail on Fuji's part. It's ok soon it won't matter, just wish they could have gotten rid of both Velvia100 and Velvia100f, have kept Velvia50 BUT improved the reciprocity without getting rid of the color shift/saturation tones. The Velvia100 in long exposure is also nice, but just not as nice as the pinker Velvia50
 

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Well "there is Velvia 100 and Velvia 100F" to me means there ARE two "Velvia 100s." Yes, they are different, but they are both "Velvia."

Clearly stated. Saying that there are not two Velvia 100s is like saying that Magenta is not a color.
 

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Clearly stated. Saying that there are not two Velvia 100s is like saying that Magenta is not a color.

Magenta isn't a colour, it's just made up by people who don't like saying 'pinky-purplish looking' all the time.
(and maybe there aren't two Velvia 100s, but there are definitely two 100-ASA films in the Velvia range. For now. Until Fuji run out of sheet stock.)
 
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Oh god I hope not!! I hope they are WAY better at making film than they are at making wine, anyone who knows their wines knows that Italians make some of the worst wines in the world, they just make a lot of it, and drink a lot of it too! (And I'm Italian...)

French, Californians, Spaniards, Chilean, Africans, Australians, Germans, Georgians, Russians, ALL make better wines than the Italians.

Ok, how about pretty Italian girls? They do well there :cool:

Oh and if we are reminiscing about Ektachrome, how about Ektachrome-X (E-4). Everything was blue, even the reds and yellows.
 

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Folks outside continental Europe always shoot the most entertaining opinions about wine. :D
Have no idea how they are doing it.. but I salute them.

Stone, shoot something about coffee, espresso etc. :wink:
 

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Folks outside continental Europe always shoot the most entertaining opinions about wine. :D
Have no idea how they are doing it.. but I salute them.

Stone, shoot something about coffee, espresso etc. :wink:

Italians make the best coffee brews for sure, I know nothing about their ability to grow coffee seeds, I know East Asia and Affrica make good coffee seed.
 

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Magenta isn't a colour, it's just made up by people who don't like saying 'pinky-purplish looking' all the time.
(and maybe there aren't two Velvia 100s, but there are definitely two 100-ASA films in the Velvia range. For now. Until Fuji run out of sheet stock.)

I was making a reference the to dreaded two letter troll for the benefit of PE and Brian. The dreaded two letter troll would post that PE did not know anything about the physics or photography of light. A self ordained expert on very little.
 

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Folks outside continental Europe always shoot the most entertaining opinions about wine. :D
Have no idea how they are doing it.. but I salute them.

Stone, shoot something about coffee, espresso etc. :wink:

Until the California wines were beating the French wines in European competitions.
 

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Until the California wines were beating the French wines in European competitions.

As far as I know, there are no regulations in the US for the use of GE yeasts and mandatory labeling of genetically modified wines, foods etc. While in Europe it's the other way around.

A matter of taste.

Italians make the best coffee brews for sure...
:wink:
 

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As far as I know, there are no regulations in the US for the use of GE yeasts and mandatory labeling of genetically modified wines, foods etc. While in Europe it's the other way around.

A matter of taste.


:wink:
When the US products get imported to the UK they get labelled NGM or GM so there is a traceability regieme.
Alas not wine but nuts and beans.

One wonders why.
 

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Italians make the best coffee brews for sure, I know nothing about their ability to grow coffee seeds, I know East Asia and Affrica make good coffee seed.
They don't grow coffee in Italy Stone they import the beans, and roast it and blend it there.
 

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Thanks, yes I assumed based on the climate that they didn't but I didn't know so I didn't want to comment on that.

Coffee can be grown over a wider range of areas than cocoa. e.g Australia produces a certain amount of coffee. Oh and by the way, there are some excellent Italian wines alongside terrible French wine so I'm not sure you can generalise that much. Even in England there are some very good wines, especially sparking, see: http://www.ridgeview.co.uk for one example.

Tom
 

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Coffee can be grown over a wider range of areas than cocoa. e.g Australia produces a certain amount of coffee. Oh and by the way, there are some excellent Italian wines alongside terrible French wine so I'm not sure you can generalise that much. Even in England there are some very good wines, especially sparking, see: http://www.ridgeview.co.uk for one example.

Tom

I did say MAJORITY and I did say anywhere can produce good wines, just your chances are better with a mid grade wine from France/California than from Italy. It's statistics.
 
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Australia does produce coffee. But it is more expensive than long-established marques and is not necessarily better. Different coffee for different markets and tastes, a bit like film! Wines though are an entirely different subject for which I am not well qualified. Suffice to say, I am very partial to Marlborough/New Zealand products!
 
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