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1600 speed color has been gone for ages flavio

Bohooooooo!!
I still have 2 rolls in the freezer. It was such a great film, i used it a LOT for concert photography and got my best shots with it. The grain was good looking on 8x11" optical enlargements; the saturation and contrast perfect for indoor shots. It also retained color balance well in mixed lighting. And you could even underexpose it at EI 3200 and still get usable results.

Compared to the 800-speed film, the 800 speed was more of a "daylight" film, a bit more contrastier and more saturated. And noticeably finer grain. But the 1600 got the look I wanted.

I have also used the predecessor, "Fuji Super HG 1600", which had far higher granularity than the Superia 1600. Superia 1600 was a massive improvement over it!!
 

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Bohooooooo!!
I still have 2 rolls in the freezer. It was such a great film, i used it a LOT for concert photography and got my best shots with it. The grain was good looking on 8x11" optical enlargements; the saturation and contrast perfect for indoor shots. It also retained color balance well in mixed lighting. And you could even underexpose it at EI 3200 and still get usable results.

Compared to the 800-speed film, the 800 speed was more of a "daylight" film, a bit more contrastier and more saturated. And noticeably finer grain. But the 1600 got the look I wanted.

I have also used the predecessor, "Fuji Super HG 1600", which had far higher granularity than the Superia 1600. Superia 1600 was a massive improvement over it!!

Oh well, now it's just Portra800 apparently, I'm surprised as kodak seems to have pulled out of the high speed market early in B&W but not in color, though I hear that Portra400 pushes better to 1600 than Portra800 does, which is all preference I'm sure but still interesting to hear.
 

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Bohooooooo!!
I still have 2 rolls in the freezer. It was such a great film, i used it a LOT for concert photography and got my best shots with it. The grain was good looking on 8x11" optical enlargements; the saturation and contrast perfect for indoor shots. It also retained color balance well in mixed lighting. And you could even underexpose it at EI 3200 and still get usable results.

Compared to the 800-speed film, the 800 speed was more of a "daylight" film, a bit more contrastier and more saturated. And noticeably finer grain. But the 1600 got the look I wanted.

I have also used the predecessor, "Fuji Super HG 1600", which had far higher granularity than the Superia 1600. Superia 1600 was a massive improvement over it!!

Buy fresh Natura 1600 from yodobashi or Bic in Japan etc, and use a shipping service like tenso.com, you can prolly find it on taobao too.
 
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Bohooooooo!!
I still have 2 rolls in the freezer. It was such a great film, i used it a LOT for concert photography and got my best shots with it. The grain was good looking on 8x11" optical enlargements; the saturation and contrast perfect for indoor shots. It also retained color balance well in mixed lighting. And you could even underexpose it at EI 3200 and still get usable results.

Compared to the 800-speed film, the 800 speed was more of a "daylight" film, a bit more contrastier and more saturated. And noticeably finer grain. But the 1600 got the look I wanted.

I have also used the predecessor, "Fuji Super HG 1600", which had far higher granularity than the Superia 1600. Superia 1600 was a massive improvement over it!!

I have a roll of HG 1600 I recieved in a lot. I have no idea what to do with it.:pouty:
 

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Superia 1600 is available in Europe.
 

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Fuji 800 / 1600 are NOT discontinued

These films may have been discontinued by a certain importer or shop, but mothership Fujifilm Japan has NOT discontinued them. Both films are easily available in Japan and Germany and I assume in other European countries as well. I specifically checked the Fujifilm Japan website today and both films are listed as current products. That being said, Portra 800 is an excellent film although it is a good deal more expensive than Fuji 800 here in Germany.
 

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Buy fresh Natura 1600 from yodobashi or Bic in Japan etc, and use a shipping service like tenso.com, you can prolly find it on taobao too.

What's the difference between the Natura and Superia 1600? Amazon has both available in the US, though the Natura ships from Japan. The Natura costs about 50% more than the Superia.
 

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Wal-Mart in the US used to keep four-packs on its shelves. I hope anyone reading this who finds themselves in a Wal-Mart will take a moment to look and report back. (I try not to find myself there ever, but my wife occasionally ventures out...)

Our Walmart in SE PA has only had the Fuji 200 on the shelf for some time although there are empty spaces for the 400 and 800.

Of course the recently downsized digikam area is about half stocked, too. Those things seem to be disappearing a lot faster than film!

United States is now the land of the big box store. If something doesn't sell well enough in a big box store it is moved out in favor of something else that does. Superia 800 must have been one of those that didn't make the cut. Like many, many other things that are missed.

You sure got that right! Sometimes I feel like I am the only one that's noticed that! Walmart is the only thing local and they sell what THEY want to sell, not necessarily what YOU need or want.
 

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These films may have been discontinued by a certain importer or shop, but mothership Fujifilm Japan has NOT discontinued them. Both films are easily available in Japan and Germany and I assume in other European countries as well. I specifically checked the Fujifilm Japan website today and both films are listed as current products. That being said, Portra 800 is an excellent film although it is a good deal more expensive than Fuji 800 here in Germany.

This is really excellent news!!
 
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What's the difference between the Natura and Superia 1600? Amazon has both available in the US, though the Natura ships from Japan. The Natura costs about 50% more than the Superia.

Nothing, just branding. That was the first question I asked on this forum.
 

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Superia 1600 is available in the US from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Fuji...8&qid=1418378772&sr=8-1&keywords=Superia+1600

I bought quite a few rolls of Provia 400X from that same reseller - no problems.

The remaining Provia 400X is up to $28 a roll! Yikes! I won't be buying any more at that price (but I have about 20 rolls in the freezer.)

That is good news. Thx Roger I hadn't noticed. I have gotten to the point where I shoot Portra 400 at 1600 with decent results but I may need to pick up a few rolls of the Superia 1600 and do a comparison.
 

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That is good news. Thx Roger I hadn't noticed. I have gotten to the point where I shoot Portra 400 at 1600 with decent results but I may need to pick up a few rolls of the Superia 1600 and do a comparison.

You can shoot portra 400 at 1600, but you can shoot Superia 1600 at 3200 and get totally usable negatives!
 

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You can shoot portra 400 at 1600, but you can shoot Superia 1600 at 3200 and get totally usable negatives!

What's the true ASA of Superia1600? And what I mean is, for example both tmax3200 and delta3200 were actually 1000 speed that pushed well, or is it actually 1600? I guess the answer to that is does the lab charge more for processing this film that would tell you if they push it in the lab or not I suppose, I just don't know as I've never shot it.
 

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What's the true ASA of Superia1600? And what I mean is, for example both tmax3200 and delta3200 were actually 1000 speed that pushed well, or is it actually 1600? I guess the answer to that is does the lab charge more for processing this film that would tell you if they push it in the lab or not I suppose, I just don't know as I've never shot it.

Superia 1600 has a honest and straight ASA/ISO of 1600, 100% honest, fresh & good, with the typical latitude of a normal color neg film. That's why i like it so much.
 

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Superia 1600 has a honest and straight ASA/ISO of 1600, 100% honest, fresh & good, with the typical latitude of a normal color neg film. That's why i like it so much.

Cool, sorry for your loss then, and it truly is if you utilize it that way, so truly sorry man, well, at least there's film at all in color still.
 

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Cool, sorry for your loss then, and it truly is if you utilize it that way, so truly sorry man, well, at least there's film at all in color still.

No no, check out the posts above, Superia 1600 is still being manufactured. But Fuji is not distributing it worldwide.
 

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I think the 1600 Natura is a kind of a specialty thing in Japan, as it is marketed to be used with certain film compact film cameras Fuji still sold there until recently that make a point of not using flash for low light and I think they offer or at least offered special workshops how to make best use of the camera and film combo for available light photography. Apart from that I don't think they can afford to produce to different 1600 CN films, so my guess is that Superia and Natura 1600 are identical, but I will have a look into the data sheets and see if I can find any differences.

EDIT just checked the data sheets and they appear to be one and the same film
 
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I think the 1600 Natura is a kind of a specialty thing in Japan, as it is marketed to be used with certain film compact film cameras Fuji still sold there until recently that make a point of not using flash for low light and I think they offer or at least offered special workshops how to make best use of the camera and film combo for available light photography. Apart from that I don't think they can afford to produce to different 1600 CN films, so my guess is that Superia and Natura 1600 are identical, but I will have a look into the data sheets and see if I can find any differences.

EDIT just checked the data sheets and they appear to be one and the same film

I see, ok, so like Velvia50 in sheet film is only sold in Japan now and not exported. Same deal, got it.

They use the 800 found in the underwater cameras that are for vacation trips still, so I assume it somewhere in the 800 to still made.

I would consider the 1600 for 120 only for indoor model shoots. But for ME it's. It with ordering from a Japanese retailer and ship to the US, but I'm sure some people do this as they love the film, good to know for those people that it is still available.
 

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I see, ok, so like Velvia50 in sheet film is only sold in Japan now and not exported. Same deal, got it.

They use the 800 found in the underwater cameras that are for vacation trips still, so I assume it somewhere in the 800 to still made.

I would consider the 1600 for 120 only for indoor model shoots. But for ME it's. It with ordering from a Japanese retailer and ship to the US, but I'm sure some people do this as they love the film, good to know for those people that it is still available.

I'm afraid that there is not any 1600 ISO colour film for 120
 

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I would consider the 1600 for 120 only for indoor model shoots. But for ME it's. It with ordering from a Japanese retailer and ship to the US, but I'm sure some people do this as they love the film, good to know for those people that it is still available.

Me (and the TO and I guess almost everyone else in this thread) was talking about 35mm film. I didn't even think about 120 or sheet film. Maybe I should have been more precise.

To sum it up: Fastest color films available
35mm: Superia 1600
120: Portra 800
sheet film: Portra 400
 

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This thread got me thinking of Konica 3200 and Scotch Chrome 640T; remember those?

Anyway, I made nice prints from shooting Superia 1600 at 100ASA in full sun. Interestingly, the negatives weren't as dense as I was expecting. The prints have a pastel - mushy sort of grain that is quite pleasant. The cost of Superia 1600 prevents me from playing more with this sort of thing.
 

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This thread got me thinking of Konica 3200 and Scotch Chrome 640T; remember those?

Or Ektar 1000; what a grainy film it was. I miss Fuji NHG II 800 in 120, though (but Portra is probably just as good).
 
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