Fuji Reala

[Tony-S]

Reala anyone?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/18776-USA/Fujifilm_02300607_CS_120_Fujicolor_Reala.html

I guess you didn't see my post?

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Reala 120 is back in stock at B&H Photo, but not at Adorama or Freestyle. I just ordered two pro packs and they've already shipped.

 

[brucemuir]

I dig it in 120 myself but haven't tried the "superia reala" in 135. I hate superia 400 in 135 but that's a different kettle.

I was making 10x10's from hasselblad negs and everyone in the community darkroom was marveling at it's lack of grain.
Ektar is probably finer grained but I've seen some funky casts from that film so have delayed trying it until my reala is gone.

 

[CGW]

I dig it in 120 myself but haven't tried the "superia reala" in 135. I hate superia 400 in 135 but that's a different kettle.

I was making 10x10's from hasselblad negs and everyone in the community darkroom was marveling at it's lack of grain.
Ektar is probably finer grained but I've seen some funky casts from that film so have delayed trying it until my reala is gone.

135 Superia Reala isn't the same critter as 120 Reala--my fave C-41 film. I've always liked plain old Superia 200 for 35mm.

 

[mikecnichols]

135 Superia Reala isn't the same critter as 120 Reala--my fave C-41 film. I've always liked plain old Superia 200 for 35mm.

I like the Superia 200 as well. I'm excited to use the Reala 120 though....I think I'll have to get more soon.

 

[benjiboy]

Or He called it "Fuji 160S".

I'm primarily a portrait photographer and although I love Fuji Pro 160S for it's intended use portraits and reproducing accurate skin tones, to me it's much too lacking in saturation and contrast to be considered general purpose, whereas Fuji Reala IMO can produce very creditable results in many more and varied types of photography including portraiture.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

135 Superia Reala isn't the same critter as 120 Reala--my fave C-41 film. I've always liked plain old Superia 200 for 35mm.

I mentioned this in another thread on Reala but seems many do not believe or choose not to. 120 Reala is almost like NPH in contrast and saturation in my book, a gorgeous film, but nothing like 35mm Superia Reala which is much more contrasty and saturated.

 

[perkeleellinen]

I'm actually one of those who is sceptical of the claim that 120 & 135 Reala are different. There's no data sheet for 120 but for me both films print on the same filter pack and look the same when printed onto Supra Endura. Density seems the same also as my exposure times are the same for both types. I have no way of measuring contrast or saturation. When I first got a medium format camera I was keen to try the different 120 Reala, but I couldn't see any difference.

 

[CGW]

I mentioned this in another thread on Reala but seems many do not believe or choose not to. 120 Reala is almost like NPH in contrast and saturation in my book, a gorgeous film, but nothing like 35mm Superia Reala which is much more contrasty and saturated.

Hmmm. I always thought NPH, and even the later Pro400H though less so, had a chalky, slightly washed out look that could make anyone look slightly cadaverous. 120 Reala hits a sweet spot in contrast/saturation that Superia 200 can mimic in the right lighting. Superia Reala isn't very pretty and isn't the same emulsion used in 120. Photo.net has a large store of banked stuff on the differences between the 135 and 120 Realas.

 

[benjiboy]

I'm actually one of those who is sceptical of the claim that 120 & 135 Reala are different. There's no data sheet for 120 but for me both films print on the same filter pack and look the same when printed onto Supra Endura. Density seems the same also as my exposure times are the same for both types. I have no way of measuring contrast or saturation. When I first got a medium format camera I was keen to try the different 120 Reala, but I couldn't see any difference.

My experiences of 135 and 120 Reala are the same as yours, I have been using them for several years and have never had any reason to think they were different films.

 

[Mark Crabtree]

I have an older Fujifilm Data Guide that certainly seems to indicate that 35 and 120 are the same emulsion. They list 35 and 120 together and show a single set of curves for them (Spectral Sensitivity, Spectral Dye Density, Characteristic Curves, and MTF). Things could have changed later of course.

 

[CGW]

I have an older Fujifilm Data Guide that certainly seems to indicate that 35 and 120 are the same emulsion. They list 35 and 120 together and show a single set of curves for them (Spectral Sensitivity, Spectral Dye Density, Characteristic Curves, and MTF). Things could have changed later of course.

I asked a Fuji.ca rep about 5 years ago about this. Answer? Reala 120 was an older emulsion; Superia Reala(135)was newer and incorporated their extra emulsion layer. Problem is, Fuji often quietly tweaked emulsions with no "new&improved" fanfare.

Here's the issue knocked around in 2005:

http://photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00CHCb

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

I beleive there was a time when Reala in 35mm was indeed the same as the 120. But it's the Superia Reala that I'm thinking is not the same as Reala 120 as I understand it. Anyway, as CGW says there are numerous threads from years ago at photo.net that I remember going deeply into this.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

I have an older Fujifilm Data Guide that certainly seems to indicate that 35 and 120 are the same emulsion. They list 35 and 120 together and show a single set of curves for them (Spectral Sensitivity, Spectral Dye Density, Characteristic Curves, and MTF). Things could have changed later of course.

I think there was a time when 120 and 35mm Reala were the same but before the 35mm became Superia Reala. Anyway, beating certain kind of horse here....I'm done.

 

[keithwms]

I see no meaningful differences between 35mm and 120 reala. And yes I have both.

 

[iranzi]

Reala 120 is staying

I think an official notice of Reala's discontinuance will appear on Fuji's website in a month or so. Nationalphoto, which is a photo retailer for pros in Japan, put a notice of Reala's discontinuance last week on their website, saying that they were informed from Fuji of the discontinuance. This kind of information from Nationalphoto has always been very accurate and it usually comes well before Fuji releases an official one. According to the notice, Reala in 135 format will be out of stock in around April, and so will be 120/220 in around September.

http://www.nationalphoto.co.jp/1F/fuji_news_03.htm

Very sad....

I sent the above link to the Fuji headquarters in Japan asking for details. Here's their reply:

"Thank you for your inquiry.

I would like to inform you of that we will not discontinue "Real 120" for foreign sales,
but had already announced discontinuing it in Japan.

We hope that you will continue to choose our products.
Thanks. "

Great news!! I already started selling off things to raise money for a Reala stash. Looks like it could be postponed now.

d.

P.S. "Real 120" surely is a misspelling. In my email I said: Reala 120 film. I can't see how they could possibly have misunderstood the subject of my request. And they dont seem to have anything to discontinue thats called "real 120".

P.P.S. Or maybe they are being evasive, in some japanese kind of way. maybe they'll discontinue it anyway, they just dont want to talk about it...

 

[Colin Corneau]

Some Fuji Reala in 120 for a nice discount available at Photo Central in Winnipeg MB Canada, for those interested.

 

[benjiboy]

I've had several of the the most amazing 20" X 16" wedding enlargements from this 120 stuff recently, and I'm pleased to say in the U.K 120 Fuji Reala is freely available even Jessops (the country's biggest photographic retail chain) has it.