Fuji Neopan 400CN

[haris]

Hi,

I just saw this film. If you already know about it, just ignore this.

http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/films/blackwhite_neopan400cn.html

Regards.

 

[Soeren]

Hmm In some places news Don't travel fast
Sorry couldn't resist
Kind regards

 

[haris]

Well, as we here would say, sabur.

Sabur means something as relax, easy, slow, don'y worry, don't get upset, relax and enjoy...

 

[pentaxuser]

It sounds almost exactly like the details on Ilford XP2+ which as both are C41 B&W films, isn't surprising. Compared to Ilford's XP2+ you seem to hear less about the Fuji equivalent. I wonder how it compares. A salesman in Jessops said to me that Fuji B&W( he was referring to standard B&W) is quite different from Ilford or Kodak. It was just a casual end of sale conversation so I didn't press him to say what the differences were. If he is right I wonder if the same set of differences apply to Fuji C41 as compared to Ilford C41.

Anyone have any experience of both and like to share their views?

pentaxuser

 

[mabman]

I haven't seen it locally, but isn't this the product that was developed with some assistance from Ilford? I seem to recall reading about it somewhere. Not sure how it differs from either Kodak or Ilford c-41 products, though.

 

[srs5694]

FWIW, I don't see it listed at either B&H or Freestyle in the US, so I suspect it's not available on this side of the pond.

 

[craigclu]

When the Fuji first came out, there was talk that it was developed with Ilford and that it was perhaps even produced by Ilford? I never did hear what the facts ended up being. Of the chromogenics, which work best in the one hour lab rigs? I'm pretty certain that I have some Ilford in 35 and 120 frozen in some lost corner of a chest freezer somewhere. I never got around to playing with it and perhaps it's time as I can think of times it could have been handy to use.

 

[srs5694]

AFAIK, any of the chromogenics work fine in 1-hour machines, in the sense that you get good negatives out of them. Kodak BW400CN, though, has an orange mask, whereas Ilford XP2 Super has a very pale purple mask. This means that the Kodak prints more easily on conventional RA-4 color paper, whereas the Ilford prints more easily on B&W paper. (I don't know about the Fuji, or the now-discontinued Konica.) That said, some 1-hour machines have "B&W" settings, and I've gotten pretty good results from Ilford XP2 Super in some machines -- specifically, the Fuji Frontier system at my local Walgreens. Overall, I'd say it's a crap shoot, but you might stand a better chance of getting prints with minimal color cast from the Kodak film, but if you intend to print conventionally yourself, you'll find the Ilford a bit easier to use.

 

[GeoffHill]

Just about all 1 hr machines are a digital scan then print, and if the operator is bright enough to hit the black and white button, then the cast on the negative should make no difference to how it prints.

If the machine is properly calibrated to print black blacks and white whites is a totally different matter however

 

[Fotogeorge]

Why not import into USA

FWIW, I don't see it listed at either B&H or Freestyle in the US, so I suspect it's not available on this side of the pond.

Fujifilm USA told me that this film is not imported into the USA. I wonder if Fujifilm, JP or any retail company outside the USA, could ship this film to a customer in the USA.

 

[srs5694]

Dead Link Removed would seem to be the logical place to go to buy it from Japan, but I don't see it listed there. Is it actually available in Japan? It could be it's a Europe-only product. That seems odd for a Fuji product, but who knows....?

 

[GeorgesGiralt]

Hi !
Bear in mind that these B&W chromogenic films can be turned to trannies using E6 chemistry.
Some time ago, I've done a side by side comparison with XP2+, Kodak 400 (the version without the orange mask) and Konica (sakura) 400.
The image had a style. Smooth, sweet a little blue in color.
The time forprossessing where found in an old Photo Technique article. I used Kodak E6 6+1 bath chemistry at home.
As I ceased to process my E6 at home at quite the same time, I did not put the tests into field use.
Best exposure was in the 80~160 range.

 

[Paddy]

AFAIK, any of the chromogenics work fine in 1-hour machines, in the sense that you get good negatives out of them.

I would caution against this sentiment. 1 hour photo vs. Pro-lab Dip + Dunk are two very different processes. The chemical temperatures of the 1 hour units is considerably higher than pro processing. My understanding is that this results in lower quality, grainier negs. Additionally, there is the matter of quality controls at 1 hour labs there is also the risk of negative damage from the roller units in the 1 hour machines. Lastly, at most pro-labs they'll give you a choice of colour neutralized B+W, or true B+W RC prints.

Given the rural location of many shooters, a pro-lab isn't always an option. Of course, a 1 hour lab will almost always be cheaper. Caveat emptor!

 

[Brac]

When it was introduced some years ago there was mention in photographic journals of some involvement by Ilford. Certainly the film seems nearer to the Ilford equivalent than it is to the Kodak one. Therefore if you can't get the Fuji film in your market you might as well go for Ilford!

 

[2F/2F]

Well, darn! This goes on the list with medium format Reala, and with Natura; two great and unique films that we have to hunt down here in the States! Reala is easier, at least, and that is my favorite low-medium-speed color neg film. However, it seems harder to get Natura, which is a great film IMO. If Natura was made in medium format, I would use it about 50% of the time for color neg in medium format. I wish the same thing of all of Fuji's amateur emulsions, actually. I would be great to be able to use Press 800 instead of Pro 800 in medium format.