Fuji Neopan 400 (135) running out ...

[mrred]

Michael,
hot deals is a spot to look for short date and other close out items but they are not specified as close out

It was indeed a short date special. Had I realized, I would have at least picked up a couple more...

 

[perkeleellinen]

Assuming this question is addressed to me, Steve, the answer is no response and after this kind of interval I don't expect to get any.

That's odd, they've normally been quick to reply with me. Summer shutdown?

 

[Smudger]

Well, last time I checked -2 hours ago, Adorama had Neopan 400/36 for $3.89 a roll....

 

[cmacd123]

Neopan 400 appears to be still available in 35mm,

Last rolls I bought from different sources all seem to be in emulsion number 27900x with x being 1,2 or 3.

Anyone seen any newer numbers? Most of the legacy pro 400 was in 27500x

 

[Grainy]

APS, Sensia and apparently Neopan 400 gone. What do they have left? Acros, Superia, Velvia and Provia?

 

[hpulley]

Reala I think. FP-100C and FP-3000B.

 

[michaelbsc]

Why is it that Fuji's discontinued products result in some angst among a few, with grumblings to accompany. But Kodak's behavior results in rabid wailing and gnashing of teeth accompanied with death wishes toward the Kodak management?

 

[LudditeJay]

I don't have any info from Fuji but this is the response I got from Freestyle. Copied and pasted:


Hello Jason

The Legacy Pro film is no longer available. What we have left in stock
will be available until sold out.

Thank you.

Marv Keller
Manager,
Customer Service & Consumer Direct Sales

 

[perkeleellinen]

Why is it that Fuji's discontinued products result in some angst among a few, with grumblings to accompany. But Kodak's behavior results in rabid wailing and gnashing of teeth accompanied with death wishes toward the Kodak management?

Kodak loyalists have a greater tendency to join forums and really express themselves online?

I don't think that the discontinuation of Legacy Pro is the same as the discontinuation of Neopan 400. I think the former was just Fuji dumping short-dated film. Which probably doesn't bode well for sales of fresher film...

 

[LudditeJay]

I don't think that the discontinuation of Legacy Pro is the same as the discontinuation of Neopan 400. I think the former was just Fuji dumping short-dated film. Which probably doesn't bode well for sales of fresher film...

I agree. I wasn't trying to imply that the Legacy Pro discontinuation had anything to do with the availability of the fuji film.

 

[michaelbsc]

I agree. I wasn't trying to imply that the Legacy Pro discontinuation had anything to do with the availability of the fuji film.

I do think that this thread is far more sane than the 40 page Kodak bashings.

 

[mrred]

Anyone seen any newer numbers? Most of the legacy pro 400 was in 27500x

Mine was 275-003

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Why is it that Fuji's discontinued products result in some angst among a few, with grumblings to accompany. But Kodak's behavior results in rabid wailing and gnashing of teeth accompanied with death wishes toward the Kodak management?

Because Kodak was the 800-pound gorilla in the room.

If Hawker Beechcraft said they were getting out of the aircraft business there would be angst and grumblings by a few loyal users. But if Boeing said the same thing, the aircraft market would tank overnight. You wouldn't be able to count the number of death wishes...

Ken

 

[arealitystudios]

speaking of grumblings...

I personally stopped using all Fuji Film products after they discontinued Neopan 400 in 120. It wasn't so much that they stopped making the film that got me angry (though I certainly wasn't happy about that) but more the utterly horrible lack of communication on their end. Kodak at least takes the time to issue a press release and responds to my e-mails, even when it's news I don't want to hear. Ilford of course is incredible with their communication and doesn't leave us guessing.

I'd just rather give my money to a company that talks to the people who keep them in business.

 

[pentaxuser]

I have now had an official answer from Fuji to my question: Fuji Neopan 400 135 has NOT been discontinued.

As others have said Reala 135 has now ceased production but in the U.K. large stocks remain.

pentaxuser

 

[hpulley]

Reala 120 is still being made though it seems the production runs are sporadic so at times it is sold out.

 

[michaelbsc]

speaking of grumblings...

I personally stopped using all Fuji Film products after they discontinued Neopan 400 in 120. It wasn't so much that they stopped making the film that got me angry (though I certainly wasn't happy about that) but more the utterly horrible lack of communication on their end. Kodak at least takes the time to issue a press release and responds to my e-mails, even when it's news I don't want to hear. Ilford of course is incredible with their communication and doesn't leave us guessing.

I'd just rather give my money to a company that talks to the people who keep them in business.

I agree that your concerns are legit, and I think Fuji drops the ball in their NA marketing a lot.

Having said that, I have done a lot of work for Fujifilm in the past, and getting through the Japanese barrier is really tough for them. I'm not sure why. It seems to me that if they cannot "get it" with someone from Japan they could simply allow someone from the US to run the portions that have to interface with Americans. But they won't do it. There are probably thousands of people in Fuji North America who could make their existence easier, but they want to keep that final string.

In the end, this is what you're complaining about; their inability to let go and trust that at least a few Americans - who they could vet - aren't trying to rook them. They just can't let go.

MB

 

[Matt5791]

I have now had an official answer from Fuji to my question: Fuji Neopan 400 135 has NOT been discontinued.

As others have said Reala 135 has now ceased production but in the U.K. large stocks remain.

pentaxuser

Yes - this thread has been a complete red herring. It is Neopan 1600 which has been discontinued.

 

[perkeleellinen]

Great to hear this is only a rumour. Would be good if the title could be edited to reflect this.

 

[sandermarijn]

This being only a rumour I fail to understand why two of the largest German online shops (Fotoimpex and Macodirect) have scrapped the film entirely. Not just "nicht am vorrat" but gone altogether. Smells a bit fishy. Neopan 400-135 is not a niche film, I thought.

 

[cmacd123]

Just for fun, after being missing for a couple of weeks, the bulk Legacy Pro 400 version just magically repapered on the freestyle site. Only two days since I placed an order for just the rolls too! I will let you all know what emusion number I get. I ordered a few rolls of the Fuji Neopan 400 at the same time. Previous rolls of that from two places have been em 279, with a 12/2012 date.

 

[sandermarijn]

Neopan 400 has reappeared on macodirect.de as well: http://www.macodirect.de/fuji-neopan-13536-p-2411.html. The expiration date is 03/2013. My latest Neopan 400 purchase, from another store, had that exact same date. I will be surprised if later dates exist. A gut feeling tells me that production has ceased, though perhaps that's being too gloomy.

 

[Oren Grad]

As of right now, the Fujifilm Japan website lists the following B&W films as current products:

Neopan 100 Acros: 35mm/36 exp, 120, 4x5, 8x10, 4x5QL
Neopan 400: 35mm/24 exp, 35mm/36 exp
Neopan SS: 35mm/24 exp, 35mm/36 exp

http://fujifilm.jp/personal/jan/monochrome.html

Usually when a product is being discontinued, the listing will have a "product is being discontinued, limited to stocks on hand" tag on it. At the time I'm posting this, none of the products listed above has such a tag. So while there are no guarantees, it's likely that these products are indeed still in production.

 

[pentaxuser]

Is film X being discontinued? The only certain conclusion is that if we put together all the views of the contributors we will still not reach a conclusion. It is the same result if we put together all the views of the leading economists on any matter which comes under the heading of "matters economic"

Certainty sounds the death knell of any good forum. Survival requires more "grist to the mill" . Facts should never get in the way of a good story.

A certain gent in the U.K. is reputed to have been able to buy a football(soccer) club in Britain from the profits of owing a Sunday newspaper which had headlines such as " World War Two Bomber Found On The Moon"

Life is a great adventure - its a pity that you'll never get out alive.

pentaxuser

 

[cmacd123]

It is the same result if we put together all the views of the leading economists on any matter which comes under the heading of "matters economic"

I recall the story of someone wanting a one armed ecconomist, because they were tired or receiving advice that contained the Phrase "on the other hand"