Fuji increasing prices in April

[BrianShaw]

Maybe film is now either (a) a drug of addiction or (b) is largely the pursuit of those who are rich enough not to have to worry about price increases.

... or, perhaps, there are a bunch of folks, neither particularly rich nor poor, who adapt their usage of film (and other "expensive" things) to their budget and don't whine about the price (or their need to adapt) publically. For me this price increase is just another instance of choosing what film is used, how much is used, and how to make better use of the film that is used.

 

[benjiboy]

Maybe film is now either (a) a drug of addiction or (b) is largely the pursuit of those who are rich enough not to have to worry about price increases.

Nobody who goes into a Rolls-Royce dealership to buy one ever asks about how many miles they do to the gallon or if they do, it is made plain to them that they shouldn't be there

pentaxuser

I'm worried about surviving the next winter to Hell with film prices.

 

[mohmad khatab]

The percentage of sales increase may have reached 1000%, not just 100%...
The company is the one that does not want to operate more production lines. The volume of demand is large, but it does not want to get a fair profit. It is a company that wants to earn a very high profit rate.

There is information from some influential actors in the photography YouTube that Fuji is renting (indirectly) some press and media pens in the field of analog photography so that they try to beautify its image among the analog photographic communities.

Day after day I began to believe that this information is closer to being correct, because with every decision to increase prices, I find that the defenders of this decision have louder voices than those who are angry at the decision, and you always find that their responses are elegantly and precisely disciplined scientifically, economically and accountingly Extremely .

And this is impossible to be just a coincidence. These responses are carefully studied and can never be the result of their moment. I feel as if they were responses that came after effort and trouble and writing many drafts so that a word and every letter is stacked next to the other letter in order to complete the piece. The Muse.

In general, I'm interrupting that company in the first place, even if it comes to giving up my hobby that I love,

In the meantime, I am very optimistic.
Other entirely new companies and other producers will come to life.
It was impossible last year, but this year and next year it is possible.

 

[mohmad khatab]

The price of film is the least of my financial worries, the price of electricity in Britain with effect from the first of April this year has risen by more than 50%, , and is due to rise again in October, I'm more worried about paying the increased energy bills next winter, film is't a necessity

Just a 50% increase?
Why are you sad ..
What do we do in Egypt, the increase in energy prices by 600 in the last five years. The Egyptians gave up heating with electricity or gas. They resorted to some strange ideas, such as heating with candles that do not run out, and cooking food on a stove full of sawdust that works for 20 days without extinguishing and works at the same time as a heater.
Yes, we must share new pains and ideas to face life that has become more difficult every day than the day before.

 

[benjiboy]

Just a 50% increase?
Why are you sad ..
What do we do in Egypt, the increase in energy prices by 600 in the last five years. The Egyptians gave up heating with electricity or gas. They resorted to some strange ideas, such as heating with candles that do not run out, and cooking food on a stove full of sawdust that works for 20 days without extinguishing and works at the same time as a heater.
Yes, we must share new pains and ideas to face life that has become more difficult every day than the day before.

Unfortunately dried camel dung in Britain is in even shorter supply, and even more expensive than electricity.

 

[Don_ih]

Maybe film is now either (a) a drug of addiction or (b) is largely the pursuit of those who are rich enough not to have to worry about price increases.

There is another option that describes most people. Using film is a choice as part of a hobby or artistic or commercial practice and paid for accordingly. So, the higher the price of film, the less someone will be able to buy. If the price gets high enough, the user won't buy any because they won't be able to buy enough. It's at that point that people shift their practice (generally to digital) and film manufacturers lose a customer.

The analogy to Rolls Royce owners asking about the fuel mileage is not apt, since, in most situations, film-users are not using the Hasselblad that went to the moon or Oskar Barnack's personal Leica. They're using cameras that are more like nearly-rusted-out-but-still-running Chevettes and Pintos.

 

[mohmad khatab]

dried camel

There are no camels in Britain at all
Are you smart enough or what?

 

[benjiboy]

There are no camels in Britain at all
Are you smart enough or what?

Exactly, I used to be smart, but I'm not so sure now .

 

[Don_ih]

dried camel dung in Britain is in even shorter supply

I think you can still get peat.

 

[pentaxuser]

I think you can still get peat.

Not if we have got any sense you can't or shouldn't Peat is a great "carbon sink" and a major asset if simply left in the ground to absorb CO2

I agree with your argument on the effect of increasing prices about less sales and losing customers. However there appears to be a wave of unsympathetic posts that if I may summarise tells the complainant to " get over it. We need to pay whatever it takes to keep film going and the whole chain from makers to retailers have to charge whatever they charge to ensure the survival of film

Yes there may be those who will pay whatever price is asked for film and some may that plain. I whimsically describes those as addicts. There may also be those who are like the customers of Rolls Royces in that they never will need to ask the price as film prices will never drain enough of their disposable income to ever be a serious concern

I just doubt, like you I think, that there are enough film consumers in either of these two categories above to ensure that film makers need not have any concerns about film pricing

pentaxuser

 

[faberryman]

I agree with your argument on the effect of increasing prices about less sales and losing customers. However there appears to be a wave of unsympathetic posts that if I may summarise tells the complainant to " get over it. We need to pay whatever it takes to keep film going and the whole chain from makers to retailers have to charge whatever they charge to ensure the survival of film

Yes there may be those who will pay whatever price is asked for film and some may that plain. I whimsically describes those as addicts. There may also be those who are like the customers of Rolls Royces in that they never will need to ask the price as film prices will never drain enough of their disposable income to ever be a serious concern

I just doubt, like you I think, that there are enough film consumers in either of these two categories above to ensure that film makers need not have any concerns about film pricing

pentaxuser

Yes, at some point old film enthusiasts will die and young film enthusiasts will start thinking that maybe spending $20-$30 to buy a roll of film and get it processed and scanned just to post on Instagram isn’t as much fun as it used to be.

 

[Don_ih]

However there appears to be a wave of unsympathetic posts that if I may summarise tells the complainant to " get over it. We need to pay whatever it takes to keep film going and the whole chain from makers to retailers have to charge whatever they charge to ensure the survival of film

And what those people fail to realize is that the way most people will eventually "get over it" is to stop buying film. Film prices, especially for people who don't make prints in a darkroom, just can't be ignored.

Incidentally, I was joking about the peat.

young film enthusiasts will start thinking that maybe spending $20-$30 to buy a roll of film and get it processed and scanned just to post on Instagram isn’t as much fun as it used to be

There will be a time when the "film fad" dries up, no matter what price the film is. Not many people are doing the Macarena, putting their pet rock to sleep, playing Rockband, twirling a Hoola Hoop, or asking "Where's the beef?" The current fad for film is probably still swelling. Then it'll pop. Like a balloon.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Maybe film is now either (a) a drug of addiction or (b) is largely the pursuit of those who are rich enough not to have to worry about price increases.

Nobody who goes into a Rolls-Royce dealership to buy one ever asks about how many miles they do to the gallon or if they do, it is made plain to them that they shouldn't be there

pentaxuser

+1

 

[brbo]

Yes, at some point old film enthusiasts will die...

And at that point, when I die, I probably won't care about film prices.





My only worry is that I might not be old enough...

 

[Sirius Glass]

And at that point, when I die, I probably won't care about film prices.





My only worry is that I might not be old enough...

I probably would not complain about film prices then either.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If the film prices are too high for you, then it is time to stop machine gunning subjects.

 

[Don_ih]

If the film prices are too high for you, then it is time to stop machine gunning subjects.

So how long should a roll of film last?

 

[faberryman]

So how long should a roll of film last?

Seems like in the good old days I heard stories about people getting film developed and the prints included vacation, birthdays, Christmas, and the kids’ new Easter outfits. And that was for a roll of 620. If it were 126 you could squeeze in Halloween and the next Christmas too. Why you ask? Do you have any idea how much flashcubes cost? I think they were more expensive than film.

 

[brbo]

When I was young my mother would usually urge my father to shoot the remaining 5 shots of the summer holidays so we could have the pictures developed when we got home. But my father had other plans. The remaining 5 shots was more than enough for our next year's holidays.

 

[Don_ih]

Seems like in the good old days I heard stories about people getting film developed and the prints included vacation, birthdays, Christmas, and the kids’ new Easter outfits.

That kind of film use was great for manufacturers when almost every family did that. Now they take photos with their phones. Those people stopped using film so long ago, they don't know you can still buy it.

In other words, those people are obviously not what is currently keeping film manufacturers in business.

Anyway, I'm not talking about using one roll of film a year. Spurious Grass said people should stop machine gunning their subjects. But what counts as too many shots? And then how many days or weeks should a roll of film be in the camera? And if all people used film so sparingly, can the manufacturers sell enough film to justify making it?

 

[mohmad khatab]

In the past, families used to buy cameras and films in a very large way.
And they don't count the number of movies they have to consume.
I have a Ukrainian friend who launched a group on Facebook with the aim of buying scrap cameras with a movie that was filmed and forgotten without development, and they are developing those movies and displaying them on Facebook.

1- Hungary was that good country that had a Forte factory, which was the cheapest product and was the most widespread in Egypt.
2- GDR has ORWO factory and this product was the most popular among professional photographers
3 - England has a company called Tudor
4 - Italy has a company called Ferrania that produces 3M
5- Yugoslavia has a company called Photochemka
6 - Ukraine has Svema
7 - Russia has Tasma
8 - Great Britain has the prestigious Ilford Foundation.
9 - West Germany has Agfa
10 - The Czechoslovak Republic has FOMA
Ten factories in Europe alone, most of those factories were also producing negative and positive color film, even if it was not entirely successful, but it was an available option.

Joyful but sad memories of the bitter reality we live in now.

 

[Sirius Glass]

So how long should a roll of film last?

Until the tape pulls off the spool.

 

[Don_ih]

Until the tape pulls off the spool.

Let's put it another way: how much film do you use in a year? You're an avid Kodak supporter - you must use at least a roll a week.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Let's put it another way: how much film do you use in a year? You're an avid Kodak supporter - you must use at least a roll a week.

Not as much as I would like.

 

[StevieB]

It won't be long now film users will go to the hospital and sell their blood. The other alternative is to eat a lot of bon-bons and find Dr Heller.