For Sale FS 4x5 Modified Speed Graphic and lens

[Bob AZ]

Graflock back, viewing hood, working curtain shutter, 5” lens $100
This was a DIY project and so is a resurrected from the dead, heavily modified, and a little on the crude side setup
Use the back or the working curtain shutter for a project or try out LF on the cheap.
Bellows light tight, comes with a little 5” Dagor lens that makes sharp pictures and covers 4x5 in a working, reasonably accurate shutter, and a few older wooden holders if desired
$100 + shipping from AZ

 

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[Bob AZ]

SOLD

 

[Donald Qualls]

Someone got a deal. The Annie-compatible Graflok back is worth more than the price asked. Looks like a nice little field camera for someone.

 

[gone]

It took 20 minutes to sell it

 

[Cholentpot]

Someone got a deal. The Annie-compatible Graflok back is worth more than the price asked. Looks like a nice little field camera for someone.

What is Annie-compatible?

 

[Donald Qualls]

What is Annie-compatible?

Compatible with an Anniversary model. I think that body was actually a pre-Anniversary, but the spring back mount was the same on that and the Anniversary, I believe. Anyway, having just converted my own Annie to Graflok (after first getting a Pacemaker Graflok by mistake), I recognize the pattern and head type of the screws that hold the Graflok back to the main body.

With the mods on that (tilting -- and swinging? -- front standard with 5" lens board mount and Graflok back) that's an incredibly versatile camera. Add an adapter board to take the 4" boards original to Anniversary and Pacemaker models, and it'll be a great field camera that can double as a press camera. Get a LomoGraflok for it and it'll be an instant camera for parties and gatherings (when we can have those again); pick up a few Grafmatics and it'd be awesome for PJ type work.

 

[Cholentpot]

Compatible with an Anniversary model. I think that body was actually a pre-Anniversary, but the spring back mount was the same on that and the Anniversary, I believe. Anyway, having just converted my own Annie to Graflok (after first getting a Pacemaker Graflok by mistake), I recognize the pattern and head type of the screws that hold the Graflok back to the main body.

With the mods on that (tilting -- and swinging? -- front standard with 5" lens board mount and Graflok back) that's an incredibly versatile camera. Add an adapter board to take the 4" boards original to Anniversary and Pacemaker models, and it'll be a great field camera that can double as a press camera. Get a LomoGraflok for it and it'll be an instant camera for parties and gatherings (when we can have those again); pick up a few Grafmatics and it'd be awesome for PJ type work.

I understood all of that. Good buy whoever grabbed it.

 

[dodphotography]

Can't wait to see this listed on CatLabs for like a 12000% upcharge.

 

[woodlandSerenade]

Can't wait to see this listed on CatLabs for like a 12000% upcharge.

You called it... 500% upcharge and they swapped the Dagor for a Raptar

 

[choiliefan]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284288028568?hash=item4230e30f98:g:4PoAAOSwNX9glrn6

 

[woodlandSerenade]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284288028568?hash=item4230e30f98:g:4PoAAOSwNX9glrn6

They're also selling the Dagor separately for $650....

 

[sfphoto]

They're also selling the Dagor separately for $650....

So then it is 1200 percent.
Is there any way here to block specific buyers?
Sort of too bad all these details had to be brought up - hopefully BA is a young guy in good physical health. Ancient photogs. like me could have a heart attack.

 

[grat]

When I was searching for parts and pieces for a 4x5 outfit last year, I consistently ran across Catlabs as a recommended source for gear and Jobo. I came to the conclusion that they are price-gouging jerks. They're at least half the reason I refuse to consider owning any gear marked "Jobo".

 

[Bob AZ]

Oh Well, lesson learned I guess. Not quite ancient enough to have a heart attack, but old enough that I should have known better
On the other hand it was liberating clearing out some unused stuff!
BW

 

[ApMoore]

You called it... 500% upcharge and they swapped the Dagor for a Raptar

That's heartbreaking.

 

[Horatio]

Not saying it's a bad thing, but I guess some people are into photography only to make money.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Not saying it's a bad thing, but I guess some people are into photography only to make money.

Well, most people who are in business see making money as one of their main goals -- else they'd be doing the thing (whatever thing that is) as a hobby instead.

 

[dodphotography]

All under a fake name too... a complete snake in this industry, absolutely no one I know likes him. I posted that partially as a joke, but wow... low and behold, I was dead on.

 

[cjbecker]

Look at the add from e bay even.

 

[cptrios]

I live about a 15 minute walk from the Catlabs store. I've never bothered to go in, but I'd be happy to go browse around and shake my head disapprovingly at whoever's in there if you like!

 

[MattKing]

I'm not sure I understand the anger.
Catlabs, like many others, are in the business of buying low and selling higher.
The camera listed here was priced below market value.
It may now be for sale at the higher end of market value.
If it had been listed at Catlabs' price here, it probably wouldn't have sold.

 

[dodphotography]

I'm not sure I understand the anger.
Catlabs, like many others, are in the business of buying low and selling higher.
The camera listed here was priced below market value.
It may now be for sale at the higher end of market value.
If it had been listed at Catlabs' price here, it probably wouldn't have sold.

More people need to know the back drop... there is selling at a profit and then there is running social media groups under a fake name, combing FB every second of the day, and items being lost to the black abyss that is there website. They relist and relist and relist and relist. It’s what happens when you know the people running the show, know their background (and who supports them) and why ultimately they don’t need to sell camera equipment to eat.

a long and strange history with this fella.

 

[cptrios]

Personally, I have no issue with someone finding a deal and flipping it for a profit (though my distaste certainly rises in conjunction with the markup). My gripes, all of which are subjective and purely emotional:
- If you're going to mark something up that much, you'd better add value to it in some way. Give it a CLA, for example. Here, they took Bob AZ's own work and just described it in more flowery terms.
- It leaves an extremely bad taste in my mouth that a commercial reseller would buy gear without revealing that they're a commercial reseller. I don't know about Bob AZ, but if I posted something on here and got equal offers from a store and a 'normal' user, there's no way I'd sell it to the store. Again, they have no real responsibility to do this, but it just seems crappy.
- Worst of all, this absolutely takes it out of the hands of someone who might have used it and enjoyed it but can't afford the new inflated price. (I, for example, would 100% have bought this and used it if I had seen the post in time!) At best, a huge percentage of the community is priced out, but someone with the available funds will at least buy it and hopefully put it to work. At worst, it'll sit in storage indefinitely and gather dust.

 

[Gaston 012]

I thought I would add my bit, Why not, It's free!
The conversation and complaints regarding the Bostos reseller are interesting but incomplete, no one has mentioned the buyers, the folk that pay the "sucker" price.
I have victimized myself a couple of times there and learned my lesson at a relatively low cost but I can not bring myself to blame the owner of the store, I think it is Mr. Omer Hecht or something close to that.
Capitalism, by definition, is heartless, I used to play monopoly with my Paris friends and they never got it( very socialistically brought up) because, they kept complaining, everyone should get a monopoly!!!!!!!
Here it is cut throat and, if I am an idiot and bite at 300% markup then I can not blame anyone else, Can I?
Comments welcome

 

[Horatio]

Well it’s not just here. Last week I found an average-looking Summar for $8000 BIN in Hong Kong.